08-17-2015, 05:27 AM | #211 | |
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The completely unstreetable part is also subjective while bordering hyperbole also. Keep in mind if it was solely designed for the track it wouldn't be legal on the street. The Z/28 is a street car that also serves as a track weapon. No, the Z/28 isn't the most fully optioned Camaro but don't forget that its still a street car and has everything that's needed for the street. Yes, it could have more creature comforts but let's face it, the 5th Camaro itself isn't the holy grail of creature comforts. It's also a great driving car on the street. Which is further proven everyday by many Z/28 owners that drive them daily and/or very often on the street. It all boils down to personal preference. Nothing more........ BTW, have you ever driven a Z/28? You make strong statements about how terrible it is on the streets and I'm wondering have you had any time behind the wheel of one or are you going exclusively off what you've read from some reports? Have you proven any of these things to be true for yourself?
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08-17-2015, 05:10 PM | #212 | |
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Also I think they need to build more than 137 gt350 >350r to become a actual touchable production car. Let be honest, they are going to be few and far between the Z/28's Last edited by Full Lock; 08-17-2015 at 05:27 PM. |
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08-18-2015, 11:15 AM | #213 |
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The 137 is just for the 2015 model year.
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08-18-2015, 10:40 PM | #214 | |
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For 2015's ... but the 2016's are likely on the line already and it seems Ford will build over 4,000 of them. Too bad for those who get them, they won't be all that exclusive. |
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08-19-2015, 08:37 AM | #215 | |
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I think the most important success of this car is that it is approximately (+ or - ) the performance of the z/28 at again 80% the cost. Nobody is even mentioning that it is the first 500+ horsepower car you can buy for below $50k!!! Now thats an achievement in itself. |
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08-22-2015, 07:04 AM | #216 | |
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The first 500hp car you could buy for under $50k was the 2007 GT500. The base price back then was around $42k. I only paid $57k for my 14 GT500 - 662hp. If you want HP you don't need to option them up... |
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08-22-2015, 08:14 AM | #217 | |
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2012 - Present: 2011 CTS-V Sedan, A6, Airaid, Zmax TB and Tune by R.P.M. = 535 hp/503 lb-ft.
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08-22-2015, 01:05 PM | #218 |
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hey how much faster is your cts v vs your camaro?
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08-22-2015, 04:49 PM | #219 | |
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The Z28 is useless TO YOU so it's a bad car? You own a Camaro with 430hp, in a country were speed limits are so low that my grand mother would probably get tickets everyday... you have a car that is large and heavy for 2 and a half seats, with the dumbest trunk achitecture ever, you apparently bought ZL1 rims ... Now explain to me how what you currently own might you "useful"? Nothing at all. A Ford Taurus would do the job anyway! I own a 1LE (i guess you would consider it useless too) - not a ZL1 coz I want NA, not a Z28 coz I hate the redesign - and you know what? This car is plain useless. I live in the middle of a big city and make like 6000 miles a year... So, yeah, the car is useless .... but damn! It is FUN! The GT350 might be a pure rocket - ugliness isn't slowing a car down - but if it is not fun, speed is nothing. That's why for example, Magazines choose the Z28 over a Nissan GTR. The GTR is overall a better car, but the Z is fun, and when you buy useless cars like Camaro, Mustang and Charger, it needs to be fun, not fast (your no pro driver anyway) Same on the high end: Mc Laren is faster than a Ferrari. But the real star is the Ferrari anyway ...
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08-26-2015, 03:07 PM | #220 |
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08-28-2015, 01:38 PM | #221 |
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Jokes on you. Jpnyhc1le was asking a serious question for which we had a conversation via PM as this was tangential to the topic of this thread.
Back to the topic at hand. Jalopnik posted a few comments about their track time with the 350R. Overall very positive impressions. Just a few niggles:
Car&Driver enjoying the heck out of it. Their only real complaint was numb steering.
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08-29-2015, 06:14 AM | #223 | |
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Yea, autoweek said their favor steering feel ever for a car with electronically assisted steering.
Either different strokes, or perhaps autoweek has a better/worse opinion of EaPS cars.
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08-29-2015, 08:18 AM | #224 | |
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The fact remains, I merely wrote "GT500" and you claimed I derailed the thread... as you went on a RANT AFTER RANT, like a 12yr old. Grow a set... and get over yourself. Who listed track time after track time? Me? Nope. You? Yep. Who went on and on about comparing the various Camaros as opposed to the 1LE which had been the initial comment I responded to? Me? Nope. You? Yep. Who ACTUALLY derailed the thread? You, period. All I'm saying is, don't blame others for what you did wrong. It makes you look like a stupid little punk, regardless whether or not you actually are. You could also choose to use some respect. I ain't your daddy... and ain't gonna be. Being decent is a choice you should make. Guys like you are PRECISELY why guys like me don't contribute more. We don't need to hear from the peanut gallery simply because we don't suck up to stupid. |
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