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rickdlance · 04-03-2014, 10:21 AM

I'm new to the forum, but not to speed. My signature has my current car but I need more. I want to break 1000 hp in a true street car. I also want to put my original motor on the stand and save it.

Looking for advice. I know I'll need a fuel pump and bigger injectors. I would like to re-use my cam and cylinder heads.

I'm thinking about maybe buying a LSX 454 short block. Any suggestions? Is this a bolt in deal using my parts and headers?

Will my supercharger handle this? Will I need a bigger throttle body? Are there any recommendations on where to buy the short block?

10aSSee D · 04-03-2014, 11:22 AM

You will for sure need a bigger blower, squash pump, and bigger injectors.

BullF-16 · 04-03-2014, 11:26 AM

IMO 454 is not optimum for the boost required to hit 1000. Stick with an LSX at 427 or smaller. thicker cylinder walls are one reason.

Your Maggie is woefully undersized for 1000whp and bigger cubes.

Fuel system you need at least Squash return style setup with ID1000s or preferable a bit bigger.

Go twin turbo or slap a YSI or even better an F1x

It takes a BUNCH of cash to make a 1000+ whp reliable street car. Good Luck.

Look at the sticky here in the FI forum about motors/builds for the guys running the big HP setups. It will help

Frans96ss · 04-03-2014, 11:31 AM

Give us a call. We can get you taken care of from start to finish. We did this for a customer in Dallas Texas

blake-b · 04-03-2014, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rickdlance

I'm new to the forum, but not to speed. My signature has my current car but I need more. I want to break 1000 hp in a true street car. I also want to put my original motor on the stand and save it.

Looking for advice. I know I'll need a fuel pump and bigger injectors. I would like to re-use my cam and cylinder heads.

I'm thinking about maybe buying a LSX 454 short block. Any suggestions? Is this a bolt in deal using my parts and headers?

Will my supercharger handle this? Will I need a bigger throttle body? Are there any recommendations on where to buy the short block?

I see you are in Holden MO. I am near Liberty MO. PM me with your number and I'll give you a call. I've been over 1000hp with 2 slightly different combos and getting ready for a third.

AGP Turbo · 04-03-2014, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BullF-16

IMO 454 is not optimum for the boost required to hit 1000. Stick with an LSX at 427 or smaller. thicker cylinder walls are one reason.

Your Maggie is woefully undersized for 1000whp and bigger cubes.

Fuel system you need at least Squash return style setup with ID1000s or preferable a bit bigger.

Go twin turbo or slap a YSI or even better an F1x

+1 to all of that.

Unreal · 04-03-2014, 03:53 PM

Talk to Blake. I'm sure he could steer you in the right direction.

Forged 376 or bigger, but I wouldn't do a 454 and some twins will be the easiest/cheapest way to get there.

AGP Turbo · 04-03-2014, 04:25 PM

Do a forged stroked motor 416-427ci and keep the compression around 10:1 or higher. LSX block for safety to make it last a long time even if an accident happens here and there.
Then a pair of 56mm turbos and have fun.

pdiddy · 04-03-2014, 05:21 PM

More MO people both of u guys should come to the BBQ car meet on April 19th in independence it's at Resto mod car shop if u r intrested I can get u more details pm me it's a free BBQ then a cruise after is what the information shows on it would love to hook up with some more local guys back on topic now for that hp I will need some good drive train up grades

jessrayo · 04-03-2014, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

Do a forged stroked motor 416-427ci and keep the compression around 10:1 or higher. LSX block for safety to make it last a long time even if an accident happens here and there.
Then a pair of 56mm turbos and have fun.

I'm saying use the RHS or ERL aluminum block instead of the LSX and make sure you get the 6 bolt head. I did it with a blower and nitrous but those turbos sure look tempting......

mikeyg36 · 04-03-2014, 08:42 PM

I'd go with twin turbos.

H-E · 04-04-2014, 02:59 PM

If you drive the car on the street and rarely run above 140 -150 mph your TVS can be a heck of a fighter on the street.I routinely out run 1000hp turbo cars and centris with my 800hp 454 Maggie car.The others make impressive dyno numbers and can be a lot of fun but you can build a great street car with what your thinking. If we can help you out in any way give us a call.

*SSE 4 2SS* · 04-04-2014, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by H-E

If you drive the car on the street and rarely run above 140 -150 mph your TVS can be a heck of a fighter on the street.I routinely out run 1000hp turbo cars and centris with my 800hp 454 Maggie car.The others make impressive dyno numbers and can be a lot of fun but you can build a great street car with what your thinking. If we can help you out in any way give us a call.

I'll be your huckleberry...

AGP Turbo · 04-04-2014, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by H-E

If you drive the car on the street and rarely run above 140 -150 mph your TVS can be a heck of a fighter on the street.I routinely out run 1000hp turbo cars and centris with my 800hp 454 Maggie car.The others make impressive dyno numbers and can be a lot of fun but you can build a great street car with what your thinking. If we can help you out in any way give us a call.

By 130mph (top of 4th) I've pulled a couple bus lengths on built Maggie cars with a stock L99 TT. But none of them with a 650hp n/a motor under the blower.

04-03-2014, 10:21 AM	#1
rickdlance Drives: 700hp 6 speed Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Holden, MO Posts: 5	1000 HP Help! I'm new to the forum, but not to speed. My signature has my current car but I need more. I want to break 1000 hp in a true street car. I also want to put my original motor on the stand and save it. Looking for advice. I know I'll need a fuel pump and bigger injectors. I would like to re-use my cam and cylinder heads. I'm thinking about maybe buying a LSX 454 short block. Any suggestions? Is this a bolt in deal using my parts and headers? Will my supercharger handle this? Will I need a bigger throttle body? Are there any recommendations on where to buy the short block? __________________ 2011 HPE600 Camaro TVS Supercharger w/3.6" pulley upgrade Kooks Headers & 3" exhaust w/ Dynomax VT mufflers & High Flow Cats Vented & Drilled Rotors w/ Ceramic brake pads GM Performance CNC Cylinder heads 3:91 gears ACT dual disc clutch Comp Cams 223/231 610/615 on 115 cam Comp cams timing set, push rods, valve springs Currently 597.97 RWHP @ 6700 529.61 Torque @ 4500 on conservative tune

04-03-2014, 11:22 AM	#2
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	You will for sure need a bigger blower, squash pump, and bigger injectors. __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

04-03-2014, 11:26 AM	#3
BullF-16 USAF retired! Thank God! Drives: 2011 1SS, 1LT red,1LT/RS SGM 98Z28 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,799	IMO 454 is not optimum for the boost required to hit 1000. Stick with an LSX at 427 or smaller. thicker cylinder walls are one reason. Your Maggie is woefully undersized for 1000whp and bigger cubes. Fuel system you need at least Squash return style setup with ID1000s or preferable a bit bigger. Go twin turbo or slap a YSI or even better an F1x It takes a BUNCH of cash to make a 1000+ whp reliable street car. Good Luck. Look at the sticky here in the FI forum about motors/builds for the guys running the big HP setups. It will help __________________ HKE LSX427(Mast blk lbl 305 6bolt LS7heads, PatG231/246 blower cam, RWHP/TQ: 1281/1133 SNL Performance Custom Twin PT6766 BB turbos 4 to 25psi selectable on the Boost Leash controller, Squash dual 400LPH/ID2000s, ALKY 4 gal meth, Autometer AFR/Bst/oilpres/oiltemp/fuelpress gauges, Pedders Justice road crs pkg: All HD bushes, supercar 12kg coil overs, supercar ZL1 sways, camber plates all setup by JusticePete! :Gforce 9" 35spline S-Trac, 1500hp Outlaw axles, 3.5"alum DS, Monster Triple disc; 4xForgeline 19x10.5 4xBridgestone 305/30R19 RE-11, CTS-v calipers/rotors/Cobalt friction XR1/3 pads

04-03-2014, 03:53 PM	#7
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Talk to Blake. I'm sure he could steer you in the right direction. Forged 376 or bigger, but I wouldn't do a 454 and some twins will be the easiest/cheapest way to get there. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

04-03-2014, 05:21 PM	#9
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	More MO people both of u guys should come to the BBQ car meet on April 19th in independence it's at Resto mod car shop if u r intrested I can get u more details pm me it's a free BBQ then a cruise after is what the information shows on it would love to hook up with some more local guys back on topic now for that hp I will need some good drive train up grades __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

04-03-2014, 04:25 PM	#8
AGP Turbo Drives: All things Turbocharged Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 1,199	Do a forged stroked motor 416-427ci and keep the compression around 10:1 or higher. LSX block for safety to make it last a long time even if an accident happens here and there. Then a pair of 56mm turbos and have fun.

04-03-2014, 08:42 PM	#11
mikeyg36 Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NY Posts: 6,731	I'd go with twin turbos.

04-04-2014, 02:59 PM	#12
H-E Account Suspended Drives: 2010 zr1 Camaro 2011 vert Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: everywhere Posts: 1,121	If you drive the car on the street and rarely run above 140 -150 mph your TVS can be a heck of a fighter on the street.I routinely out run 1000hp turbo cars and centris with my 800hp 454 Maggie car.The others make impressive dyno numbers and can be a lot of fun but you can build a great street car with what your thinking. If we can help you out in any way give us a call.