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Canadian_Stig · 03-24-2010, 11:11 AM

It's not really a tax credit, but it is a reduction in the amount of tax you pay. For example, if you buy a new Camaro for $45k and have no trade in then you pay PST & GST (HST eventually) on $45k. However, if you trade in a vehicle worth $20k, then you would only pay PST & GST (HST eventually) on the difference between the purchase price and your trade in ($45k (purchase price - trade-in value $20k) so you'd pay PST & GST (HST eventually) on $25k.

That's how it works in Ontario anyway. The current benefit of selling privately is the potential buyer only has to pay PST, so technically you as the seller and the potential buyer could "share" the GST savings & dealer mark-up (profit). So you usually get more $ selling it privately and they save money because they can usually pay you more then a dealer will and don't have to pay the GST. With the HST, one of the benefits is removed. So the higher value of your trade-in vehicle the more beneficial it becomes to trade-in as opposed to selling privately.

Rickerbucks · 03-24-2010, 10:19 PM

Sales tax on used cars is absolutely criminal. Immoral. Its fundamentally WRONG that we have to pay a sales tax on used anything. I'm sure some cars end up generating more tax for the taxmana then the actiual original cost of a vehicle over its life.

I'm a law abidding, tax paying, honest citizen but this issue is bulls**t. THAT is why I'm getting my mods done.....amongst a number of reasons....in Calgary

hairtrigger · 03-24-2010, 11:14 PM

If you bought a Camaro in the US and brought it back thru Alberta and registered it there, do you only pay 5% GST at the border? They have no PST, right?

Rickerbucks · 03-25-2010, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hairtrigger

If you bought a Camaro in the US and brought it back thru Alberta and registered it there, do you only pay 5% GST at the border? They have no PST, right?

you would only pay GST at the border BUT when I register at ICBC you have to pay the PST.

PST is unavoidable on the car but not the mods.

OUR72GTO · 03-25-2010, 01:45 AM

Finally some one who knows what he is talking about!

Bravo!

the rich dude · 10-04-2013, 08:00 AM

Found this old thread, looks like there is a $10,000 savings if buying a new 2SS in the US.

Does anyone know if dealers in the states still can't sell to a CND? I have a friend in Washington state, maybe I could get him to register the car first?

any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys.

abaucom21 · 10-04-2013, 08:37 AM

To my knowledge GM still restricts new car sales to Canadians in border states. Used cars not an issue. You might have better luck traveling to a dealership further down into the states. Issue with your friend in Washington registering the car there, he will have to buy to register himself and pay state taxes. Then you will have to buy from him and when imported pay Canadian taxes. Still would most likely save you money. I have imported a few older cars from the states. Last car bought in South Carolina, just paid min. fee for 30 day tags, did not have to pay SC sales tax as I had a Canadian address and was exporting. Each state might be different.
Just keep in mind the time limit and km restrictions GM Canada puts on new cars bought in the states. Sucks, Ford Canada has no such warrenty restrictions for cross border purchases and no dealer restrictions selling to Canadians (at least they didn't last time I checked).

the rich dude · 10-04-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by abaucom21

To my knowledge GM still restricts new car sales to Canadians in border states. Used cars not an issue. You might have better luck traveling to a dealership further down into the states. Issue with your friend in Washington registering the car there, he will have to buy to register himself and pay state taxes. Then you will have to buy from him and when imported pay Canadian taxes. Still would most likely save you money. I have imported a few older cars from the states. Last car bought in South Carolina, just paid min. fee for 30 day tags, did not have to pay SC sales tax as I had a Canadian address and was exporting. Each state might be different.
Just keep in mind the time limit and km restrictions GM Canada puts on new cars bought in the states. Sucks, Ford Canada has no such warrenty restrictions for cross border purchases and no dealer restrictions selling to Canadians (at least they didn't last time I checked).

SO I guess I could first look into states further south like u mentioned. See if they will sell to a canuck.

if not then I guess i gotta ask my friend in Washington for a big favour. does he have to keep the car in his name for a certain time period or could he transfer over to my name the next day??

worse case scenario is I buy a car up here, but that $6000-8000 I don't save is really going to cut into my parts I wanna buy

razorz28 · 10-04-2013, 12:12 PM

I have one for sale priced right in Vancouver with 2000 kms on it.You will not save 15k bringing a ZL1 up from the USA.

NovaDaddy · 10-04-2013, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the rich dude

SO I guess I could first look into states further south like u mentioned. See if they will sell to a canuck.

if not then I guess i gotta ask my friend in Washington for a big favour. does he have to keep the car in his name for a certain time period or could he transfer over to my name the next day??

worse case scenario is I buy a car up here, but that $6000-8000 I don't save is really going to cut into my parts I wanna buy

Try and find a friend in Montana, no state tax there!!

BTW I have a 2013 BRM 2SS 1LE for sale. Bought it from state side. Need $43000 to cover costs. 15000 kms on it. PM if interested if not no worries.

Trackman · 10-04-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorZL1

I have one for sale priced right in Vancouver with 2000 kms on it.You will not save 15k bringing a ZL1 up from the USA.

I saved at least 15000 by buying mine new in the US last year. There were none here and if you did find one they were asking stupid money.

razorz28 · 10-04-2013, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trackman

I saved at least 15000 by buying mine new in the US last year. There were none here and if you did find one they were asking stupid money.

Yes that was last year. Not anymore.

hot ss · 10-04-2013, 10:31 PM

my cousin paid 75k for his zl1....doah.

NFRNOSS · 10-05-2013, 01:03 AM

When I did my research, buying a car from the states (if the dealership will even sell it to you) meant no warranty in Canada for 6 months and 12,000 miles. I bought a 2010, first model year, so I didn't want to take the chance with no warranty.

There is a lot of paperwork to deal with importing a car as well, but as many will tell you, you will end up saving money, and most likely a lot of it.

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03-24-2010, 11:11 AM	#43
Canadian_Stig Drives: Highlander Hybrid, Durango, TurboPT Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ajax, ON Posts: 28	It's not really a tax credit, but it is a reduction in the amount of tax you pay. For example, if you buy a new Camaro for $45k and have no trade in then you pay PST & GST (HST eventually) on $45k. However, if you trade in a vehicle worth $20k, then you would only pay PST & GST (HST eventually) on the difference between the purchase price and your trade in ($45k (purchase price - trade-in value $20k) so you'd pay PST & GST (HST eventually) on $25k. That's how it works in Ontario anyway. The current benefit of selling privately is the potential buyer only has to pay PST, so technically you as the seller and the potential buyer could "share" the GST savings & dealer mark-up (profit). So you usually get more $ selling it privately and they save money because they can usually pay you more then a dealer will and don't have to pay the GST. With the HST, one of the benefits is removed. So the higher value of your trade-in vehicle the more beneficial it becomes to trade-in as opposed to selling privately.

03-24-2010, 10:19 PM	#44
Rickerbucks HP addict Drives: 2 SS RS, Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Surrey BC Canada Posts: 889	Sales tax on used cars is absolutely criminal. Immoral. Its fundamentally WRONG that we have to pay a sales tax on used anything. I'm sure some cars end up generating more tax for the taxmana then the actiual original cost of a vehicle over its life. I'm a law abidding, tax paying, honest citizen but this issue is bulls**t. THAT is why I'm getting my mods done.....amongst a number of reasons....in Calgary

03-24-2010, 11:14 PM	#45
hairtrigger Drives: 69 Chevelle SS396 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: West Posts: 700	If you bought a Camaro in the US and brought it back thru Alberta and registered it there, do you only pay 5% GST at the border? They have no PST, right?

10-04-2013, 08:00 AM	#48
the rich dude Drives: Getting 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,149	Found this old thread, looks like there is a $10,000 savings if buying a new 2SS in the US. Does anyone know if dealers in the states still can't sell to a CND? I have a friend in Washington state, maybe I could get him to register the car first? any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys.

10-04-2013, 08:37 AM	#49
abaucom21 Drives: 2011 2LT White, 1966 TBird conv. Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 682	To my knowledge GM still restricts new car sales to Canadians in border states. Used cars not an issue. You might have better luck traveling to a dealership further down into the states. Issue with your friend in Washington registering the car there, he will have to buy to register himself and pay state taxes. Then you will have to buy from him and when imported pay Canadian taxes. Still would most likely save you money. I have imported a few older cars from the states. Last car bought in South Carolina, just paid min. fee for 30 day tags, did not have to pay SC sales tax as I had a Canadian address and was exporting. Each state might be different. Just keep in mind the time limit and km restrictions GM Canada puts on new cars bought in the states. Sucks, Ford Canada has no such warrenty restrictions for cross border purchases and no dealer restrictions selling to Canadians (at least they didn't last time I checked).

10-04-2013, 12:12 PM	#51
razorz28 Drives: 2017 Jeep Rubicon, 2016 Z06 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Abbotsford B.C. Canada Posts: 547	I have one for sale priced right in Vancouver with 2000 kms on it.You will not save 15k bringing a ZL1 up from the USA.