[jvandy50]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Which car are you talking about? The GT500? ZR1?? The only cars I know of that consistently dyno in that range bone stock are Hellcats and Redeyes. But they ain't outrunning a Ford GT. And I doubt anyone has dynoed a 2020 GT500 yet. I also doubt it could outrun a Ford GT.

I’m talking about the 500.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by jvandy50

Have seen a couple people that don’t normally post BS say they’ve heard this monster has dyno’d 680-690...

Also, there was some talk it outran the Ford GT at VIR with Billy Johnson driving.

If those end up to be true, holy hell!

680-690 rwhp makes sense for 760-765 crank hp, assuming 10% drive train losses. Assuming 12% losses, puts it at 773-784 hp.

If faster than the Ford GT, well, then it'll be faster than the ZLE by a wide margin. The GT ran 2:38.6 at VIR with Billy Johnson, a production record at the time (a short time later broken by the '19 ZR1), here's a list of a few other runs/cars (LL = lightning lap):

C7 ZR1: 2:37.2
911 GT2 RS (LL): 2:37.8
Ford GT: 2:38.6
C7 ZR1 (LL): 2:39.5
McLaren 720S (LL): 2:39.7
Dodge Viper ACR: 2:40.0
C7 Z06: 2:41.3
Ferrari 488 GTB (LL): 2:45.1
ZLE (LL): 2:45.7
McLaren 650S spider (LL): 2:45.8
911 Turbo S (LL): 2:46.8

What this shows me is the ZR1 is in some serious supercar territory. Not a surprise to me at all.

The ZLE is certainly in some impressive company. I would also imagine the 911 GT2 RS could beat the ZR1 if given a better driver than the LL folks. It is crazy fast around the 'ring.

Ford GT article: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...vir-viper-acr/

Corvette ZR1 article: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ir-lap-record/

[BlaqWhole]

I'm assuming you can't share with us who these people are or what kind of dyno they were on or how many of these they dynoed or who was driving the GT or if this is all talk or actually happened...

[jvandy50]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I'm assuming you can't share with us who these people are or what kind of dyno they were on or how many of these they dynoed or who was driving the GT or if this is all talk or actually happened...

Oh i don’t actually know if this is 100% factual or not, just seeing a pattern from a few folks who typically have good info and don’t type stuff for the hell of it. There was a new thread talking about performance rumors pop up on M6G today.

They seem to know many things ford before the rest of us.

I do not have specifics of anything, just a very strong gut feeling they aren’t making it up.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by jvandy50

Oh i don’t actually know if this is 100% factual or not, just seeing a pattern from a few folks who typically have good info and don’t type stuff for the hell of it. There was a new thread talking about performance rumors pop up on M6G today.

They seem to know many things ford before the rest of us.

I do not have specifics of anything, just a very strong gut feeling they aren’t making it up.

It does sound interesting! I do believe the dyno numbers...or that it will dyno in that range if not higher. Like I said, Hellcats dyno in the 650-680s and Redeyes are a little higher. So 680-690 would be very probable for the GT500. Taking out a Ford GT tho...I'm not soo sure. At least not with equal drivers and both cars on good rubber. But that does make things a bit more exciting!! I can't wait to see some reviews! Thanks for the info!!

[Deki]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

It comes on only the handful of GTs that are faster than the SS Camaro in a straight line.

I had no idea, my 301A has it but I don't think it does jack shit with the manual.

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

680-690 rwhp makes sense for 760-765 crank hp, assuming 10% drive train losses. Assuming 12% losses, puts it at 773-784 hp.

If faster than the Ford GT, well, then it'll be faster than the ZLE by a wide margin. The GT ran 2:38.6 at VIR with Billy Johnson, a production record at the time (a short time later broken by the '19 ZR1), here's a list of a few other runs/cars (LL = lightning lap):

C7 ZR1: 2:37.2
911 GT2 RS (LL): 2:37.8
Ford GT: 2:38.6
C7 ZR1 (LL): 2:39.5
McLaren 720S (LL): 2:39.7
Dodge Viper ACR: 2:40.0
C7 Z06: 2:41.3
Ferrari 488 GTB (LL): 2:45.1
ZLE (LL): 2:45.7
McLaren 650S spider (LL): 2:45.8
911 Turbo S (LL): 2:46.8

What this shows me is the ZR1 is in some serious supercar territory. Not a surprise to me at all.

The ZLE is certainly in some impressive company. I would also imagine the 911 GT2 RS could beat the ZR1 if given a better driver than the LL folks. It is crazy fast around the 'ring.

Ford GT article: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...vir-viper-acr/

Corvette ZR1 article: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ir-lap-record/

You can’t compare a professional drivers time in both the GT and GT500 to a editors time in a LL and say the GT500 is going to be a lot faster then a 1le

[Ethanolic]

The rumor isn’t that the GT500 beat the GT’s lap time at VIR, it’s that It was faster than a particular GT that Billy was lapping at the same event and that GT was on pretty much wasted tires.

There are other rumors that the 500 is basically turning laps in GT4 territory, I’d rather just see Randy drive it.

Vaughn Gittin Jr will be driving it at Goodwood today.

[BlaqWhole]

So a GT500 can beat a Ford GT if the Ford GT is on wasted tires...

[Ethanolic]

https://youtu.be/y-RSSWXpIm0y

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I'm assuming you can't share with us who these people are or what kind of dyno they were on or how many of these they dynoed or who was driving the GT or if this is all talk or actually happened...

I assume he is referring to this post.
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/thr...rmance.124966/

[BlaqWhole]

I don't see the point of the GT500 beating a Ford GT with the Ford GT on bad tires. That's like beating a Ford GT that is in limp mode. It does no service to either car to make Ricer statements like that. The Ford GT is a badass supercar. Even the ZR1 can't match it which says a lot. The only comparison that should be made against it is both cars on equal ground and at their best in their best condition in which case that GT500 would not stand a chance.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I don't see the point of the GT500 beating a Ford GT with the Ford GT on bad tires. That's like beating a Ford GT that is in limp mode. It does no service to either car to make Ricer statements like that. The Ford GT is a badass supercar. Even the ZR1 can't match it which says a lot. The only comparison that should be made against it is both cars on equal ground and at their best in their best condition in which case that GT500 would not stand a chance.

So let me get this right. When a ZL1 beats a GT350R which is running worn tires it is a earth shaking victory for the ZL1. When in theory a GT500 beats a GT40 on worn tires its like beating a GT40 in limp mode. Just want to make sure I have this correct.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by newmoon

So let me get this right. When a ZL1 beats a GT350R which is running worn tires it is a earth shaking victory for the ZL1. When in theory a GT500 beats a GT40 on worn tires its like beating a GT40 in limp mode. Just want to make sure I have this correct.

First off...Happy 4th! Hope you (and everyone else here) had a great time yesterday!

Now back to the subject. The severity of the wear on the GT350R's tires when it was up against the ZL1 was never specified. They just said it was used. These tires are not 1 use only. So it stands to reason that there was no impact on the car's performance.

With the Ford GT, it is stated that those tires were pretty much trash. That heavily impacts the performance. Plus there was nothing official about this "race" and whether or not it actually even happened is speculation.