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Old 10-30-2015, 02:52 PM   #57
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I hope everyone remembers this topic and thread when cars come out that the dealers put outrageous ADM on....You will hear the voice of private enterprise, freedom to choose, free-marketplace all come to the defense of dealerships and that GM has no control over what the dealerships charge....

But now, GM can dictate no lower pricing? Where are the voices defending the rights of the dealers to compete for business without the manufacturer interfering?

If dealers have to obey GM on this, the argument that GM can't tell dealers to not charge ADM on certain calls, then I throw the BS flag.

The whole dealer/manufacturer/customer relationship doesn't pass the smell test. And car sales bs marches on unchanged as always...
That's not true. GM is not lowering the price thru Employee/supplier discount. Dealers can lower the price, which will come out from their margin.
GM is not forcing dealers to sell it all at MSRP.
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Old 10-30-2015, 03:12 PM   #58
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I wouldn't be surprised if this has something to do with the fact the 2015 are still being produced. My dealer has 6 2015 sitting on the lot still. If they discount the 16 the 15's will never sell without giving them away.
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Old 10-30-2015, 04:04 PM   #59
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One of my local dealers has 9 2014 and 2015 cars sitting on the lot that aren't moving..nearly picked up a beautiful white 2SS but they went stupid on the price at the last minute.
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Old 10-30-2015, 04:44 PM   #60
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9 lol my dealer has about 30 on the lot and a z28
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Old 10-31-2015, 01:26 PM   #61
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9 lol my dealer has about 30 on the lot and a z28
I should add that in my area there are about 12 dealers...all with 9 or more.
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Old 10-31-2015, 01:36 PM   #62
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2015 Camaros will be discounted 25% soon
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Old 10-31-2015, 06:38 PM   #63
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And that is what I am counting on, or I walk.


This is an absolute idiotic move by GM. Demand for the 5th Gen was insane, and employee discount was available immediately on the 5th Gen. You start off by pissing off what should be your most loyal base of customers, your employees and their families.
Completely agree. If I'm waiting 10 months for GMO pricing, I'll just get a '17. I'm not one to just throw away $4k or so (that's what I saved when I bought my 01 SS) just because.

To everyone that says they paid X amount over dealer invoice, how sure are you that's the real imvoice? Do you think a dealership can order more cars and stay in business only making $500 profit? I've always been curious about this.
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Old 10-31-2015, 07:11 PM   #64
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Completely agree. If I'm waiting 10 months for GMO pricing, I'll just get a '17. I'm not one to just throw away $4k or so (that's what I saved when I bought my 01 SS) just because.

To everyone that says they paid X amount over dealer invoice, how sure are you that's the real imvoice? Do you think a dealership can order more cars and stay in business only making $500 profit? I've always been curious about this.
The real pricing was leaked and can be found outside of these forums.

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Old 10-31-2015, 10:50 PM   #65
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Was your post edited or just ...incomplete? I'm just really curious if the 0% financing will be available for 2016 camaro. Here's to hoping I guess.

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Old 11-04-2015, 08:58 AM   #66
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GM has updated the Vehicle Eligibility list as of Oct 29. The 2016 Camaro is still not available.
https://www.gmfamilyfirst.com/vehicle-eligibility
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:59 AM   #67
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I get a discount for working at IBM, just curious, how much CAN you really save on these discounts and stuff? Lets say 2ss comes out to 42k MSRP. What would I be looking at savings wisE?
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Old 11-04-2015, 11:18 AM   #68
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I get a discount for working at IBM, just curious, how much CAN you really save on these discounts and stuff? Lets say 2ss comes out to 42k MSRP. What would I be looking at savings wisE?
Depends on what Chevy wants to do to give supplier discounts and it all changes according to the vehicle. Some are 0 apr 72 mos, some are 3500 off, some 1500 off. Not to mention that it all depends on the REGION that you are in too.

https://www.gmsupplierdiscount.com/offers

Enter your zip to get an idea of whats going on. I have access to GM supplier discount as well as Ford but nothing for the 2016 camaro which sucks a bit. Shaving a grand off is shaving a grand off you know. At least I have $1500 worth of GM Card points... Would've been awesome if I had a supplier discount too
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Old 11-04-2015, 12:10 PM   #69
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I get a discount for working at IBM, just curious, how much CAN you really save on these discounts and stuff? Lets say 2ss comes out to 42k MSRP. What would I be looking at savings wisE?
On my build that I have not ordered yet, 1SS, A8, NPP, 56W wheels, the difference between MSRP and employee discount price is over $2900.
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:03 PM   #70
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Most GM Card points can not be added to Program Pricing Discounts. There are particular cards (extended family and/or business) that allow the two to be combined but the vast majority do not.

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