Harness system - Page 3

*Mr. Wyndham* · 02-16-2018, 07:37 AM

I worry about this for three reasons, of course it will hold you in during spirited driving, but...in the event of an accident:

1) Belts through headrest could injure your neck, and HANS device won't work with this...

2) No fifth point leaves open the possibility of submarining (sliding out through the bottom)

3) The harness straps lead downward to a point below your shoulders. Geometry and physics dictate this will compress your spine in a net-forward-momentum impact. (These seats aren't designed to support those forces to prevent it)

Not trying to be a debbie-downer...but these are things I've been told in the past by many high performance drivers, and amateur racers. I have also been told (because I've looked into this solution) that IF I chose to do it...I should plan to wear the factory seatbelt at the same time.

If you look at pro-racers, or manufacturer-designed harnesses, NONE of them are done up like this. All of which lead to my skepticism. I may be over-thinking it...

tnspd · 02-16-2018, 03:33 PM

I ran this set up at Roebling a couple months back. It worked great for what I wanted it to do. I am very happy with the setup.

Exgermanowner · 02-23-2018, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dchesrown

What BMW model buckle works with the Camaro? I called Schroth and they would not say because it is not tested to work with the Camaro, something about the angle it hooks into the backseat the other set up uses the same angle but because it needs to be bolted in there is no liability to Schroth.

Was there an answer provided about which BMW model belts would work?

tnspd · 02-23-2018, 03:25 PM

I used the universal Schroth Rallye 4 ASM harness. It has eyelets at all 4 connections. I am not aware of the BMW ones.

wstaab · 02-23-2018, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exgermanowner

Was there an answer provided about which BMW model belts would work?

BMW E90

Chub2000 · 02-23-2018, 08:41 PM

I chose to go this route..with race seats and full harnesses

NW Sam · 03-01-2018, 11:53 PM

Hi Chub2000,
Who did you get the roll bar from? Who makes the roll bar? Looks great. We need more pictures when you get it finished. Thanks, Sam.

2010REDSS · 03-02-2018, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chub2000

I chose to go this route..with race seats and full harnesses

Chub...

Great looking cage, keep us all posted with pics on the rest of your install!

Curious what seats you picked?

Got my Studio RSR 4pt, Skid Mark Garage RSD kit and Driven seats installed and hitting the track in three weeks.

Have another thread going on trying to get the airbag light defeated.....argh......but really happy with the set-up other than that pesky airbag.

Good luck with the rest of your install....looking good!

RedHot18 · 03-02-2018, 08:13 AM

Just got mine installed yesterday. I also do track events (HPDE) and this will be great. I do not think this would work for someone that is on the heavy side.
I'm 6'0 and 175 and drive with seat way up for the track and there is not a whole lot of adjustment out once I'm buckled in. I will try it tonight with my HANS and see how it feels. I think it will work fine with the device.

RedHot18 · 03-02-2018, 08:29 AM

WOW! 2010REDSS your install looks AMAZING!! Great work

2010REDSS · 03-02-2018, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedHot18

WOW! 2010REDSS your install looks AMAZING!! Great work

Thanks!

NW Sam · 03-02-2018, 11:20 AM

2010REDSS your install looks great.
Did you buy the rear seat delete as a kit?
I have been looking for set up that fits this good. Thanks, Sam.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-02-2018, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010REDSS

Chub...

Great looking cage, keep us all posted with pics on the rest of your install!

Curious what seats you picked?

Got my Studio RSR 4pt, Skid Mark Garage RSD kit and Driven seats installed and hitting the track in three weeks.

Have another thread going on trying to get the airbag light defeated.....argh......but really happy with the set-up other than that pesky airbag.

Good luck with the rest of your install....looking good!

That is NICE!!

2010REDSS · 03-03-2018, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NW Sam

2010REDSS your install looks great.
Did you buy the rear seat delete as a kit?
I have been looking for set up that fits this good. Thanks, Sam.

Yes, bought it from Skid Mark Garage. Very nice unit. I had to modify it to go around the cage. Good piece!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

That is NICE!!

Thank you sir!

02-16-2018, 07:37 AM	#29
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	I worry about this for three reasons, of course it will hold you in during spirited driving, but...in the event of an accident: 1) Belts through headrest could injure your neck, and HANS device won't work with this... 2) No fifth point leaves open the possibility of submarining (sliding out through the bottom) 3) The harness straps lead downward to a point below your shoulders. Geometry and physics dictate this will compress your spine in a net-forward-momentum impact. (These seats aren't designed to support those forces to prevent it) Not trying to be a debbie-downer...but these are things I've been told in the past by many high performance drivers, and amateur racers. I have also been told (because I've looked into this solution) that IF I chose to do it...I should plan to wear the factory seatbelt at the same time. If you look at pro-racers, or manufacturer-designed harnesses, NONE of them are done up like this. All of which lead to my skepticism. I may be over-thinking it... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

02-16-2018, 03:33 PM	#30
tnspd Drives: 18 Camaro ZL1 1LE (WILSON) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,340	I ran this set up at Roebling a couple months back. It worked great for what I wanted it to do. I am very happy with the setup. __________________ Camaro South Hot Cars and Hospitality on FB camarosouth@hotmail.com

02-23-2018, 03:25 PM	#32
tnspd Drives: 18 Camaro ZL1 1LE (WILSON) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,340	I used the universal Schroth Rallye 4 ASM harness. It has eyelets at all 4 connections. I am not aware of the BMW ones. __________________ Camaro South Hot Cars and Hospitality on FB camarosouth@hotmail.com

02-23-2018, 08:41 PM	#34
Chub2000 Drives: 2018 camaro zl1 , 2007 porsche GT3, Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 328	I chose to go this route..with race seats and full harnesses Attached Images

03-01-2018, 11:53 PM	#35
NW Sam Drives: 2017 ZL1 Garnet Red Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NW Wa Posts: 354	Hi Chub2000, Who did you get the roll bar from? Who makes the roll bar? Looks great. We need more pictures when you get it finished. Thanks, Sam.

03-02-2018, 08:13 AM	#37
RedHot18 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Vero Beach FL Posts: 114	Just got mine installed yesterday. I also do track events (HPDE) and this will be great. I do not think this would work for someone that is on the heavy side. I'm 6'0 and 175 and drive with seat way up for the track and there is not a whole lot of adjustment out once I'm buckled in. I will try it tonight with my HANS and see how it feels. I think it will work fine with the device.

03-02-2018, 08:29 AM	#38
RedHot18 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Vero Beach FL Posts: 114	WOW! 2010REDSS your install looks AMAZING!! Great work

03-02-2018, 11:20 AM	#40
NW Sam Drives: 2017 ZL1 Garnet Red Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NW Wa Posts: 354	2010REDSS your install looks great. Did you buy the rear seat delete as a kit? I have been looking for set up that fits this good. Thanks, Sam.

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