Cammed 1le vs full bolt-on C7 Auto - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

jman123 · 09-02-2016, 07:30 AM

Raced this guy last week with a Full bolt-on C7. We did a 50 roll and he destroyed me lol. I had a passenger and a full tank of gas. After the race I wasn't too upset because those 8-speeds are awesome and it sounded great as it walked me. I love the c7. His buddy's started talking poop and nut hugging. That's when I decided to run him again but with my regular weight reduction. I also hopped on e85. Was on a street tune with a peak 11.7 afr at WOT. So, not optimal. We ran it again and he got the hit. I reeled him in and best him by half a car. We let off at 130. He beat me the first time by like 4 cars, and I came back a week later and embarrassed him and his nut hugging friends. I ran him n/a btw. I have both videos but I know I can't post it here.

ytown87 · 09-02-2016, 09:31 AM

sounds about right. the only reason I can come up with you even losing the first time by that much would be wrong gear starting out in or missing a shift. a fully bolt on tuned A8 C7 vs Cammed bolt on Camaro roll race should be very close almost every time with the auto allowing you to inch away. my best friend has a fully bolt on M7 C7 and I race him NA all the time. bottom end he gets me but I can reel him in and get ahead up to about 130-140ish and then aero plays to his benefit. with your gearing you should be better off than me against a C7.

Vette owners and their buddies will never accept being beat by a Camaro though, just how it is. FL2K last year I completely destroyed a brand new A8 C7Z by about 4 cars from a 40 and he even got the jump by 2 cars before I walked by him. We had video of it and everything..Cletus from 1320 video was there but didn't get it on his camera. Next day the guy posts his go pro vids online and cut it off the moment you could see my car start to pull by him as if he won. can you blame them though?..his 90k+ Vette vs my 30k SS with maybe 10k invested and built in my garage

jman123 · 09-02-2016, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ytown87

sounds about right. the only reason I can come up with you even losing the first time by that much would be wrong gear starting out in or missing a shift. a fully bolt on tuned A8 C7 vs Cammed bolt on Camaro roll race should be very close almost every time with the auto allowing you to inch away. my best friend has a fully bolt on M7 C7 and I race him NA all the time. bottom end he gets me but I can reel him in and get ahead up to about 130-140ish and then aero plays to his benefit. with your gearing you should be better off than me against a C7.

Vette owners and their buddies will never accept being beat by a Camaro though, just how it is. FL2K last year I completely destroyed a brand new A8 C7Z by about 4 cars from a 40 and he even got the jump by 2 cars before I walked by him. We had video of it and everything..Cletus from 1320 video was there but didn't get it on his camera. Next day the guy posts his go pro vids online and cut it off the moment you could see my car start to pull by him as if he won. can you blame them though?..his 90k+ Vette vs my 30k SS with maybe 10k invested and built in my garage

Exactly right man! It's crazy how pride can screw things up. When I lose I laugh it off and come back better. It's the name of the game

Dmpsix · 09-02-2016, 11:45 AM

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LSX Camaro · 09-02-2016, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jman123

Raced this guy last week with a Full bolt-on C7. We did a 50 roll and he destroyed me lol. I had a passenger and a full tank of gas. After the race I wasn't too upset because those 8-speeds are awesome and it sounded great as it walked me. I love the c7. His buddy's started talking poop and nut hugging. That's when I decided to run him again but with my regular weight reduction. I also hopped on e85. Was on a street tune with a peak 11.7 afr at WOT. So, not optimal. We ran it again and he got the hit. I reeled him in and best him by half a car. We let off at 130. He beat me the first time by like 4 cars, and I came back a week later and embarrassed him and his nut hugging friends. I ran him n/a btw. I have both videos but I know I can't post it here.

WOW, so switching to E85 with a 1000+ LB Disadvantage you won!

jman123 · 09-03-2016, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LSX Camaro

WOW, so switching to E85 with a 1000+ LB Disadvantage you won!

More like 300 lol. Or does a c7 weigh 2,700lbs?

camarosspower · 09-03-2016, 11:45 AM

gangzoui · 09-07-2016, 08:10 AM

so switching to E85 with a 1000+ LB Disadvantage you won!

jman123 · 09-07-2016, 09:04 AM

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so switching to E85 with a 1000+ LB Disadvantage you won!

Yes I did. Why 1000lbs??? Where is this number coming from?

Backtoblack1LE · 09-07-2016, 09:04 AM

You won't take a "full bolt on" C7 with a tune unless your near 600RWHP due to the fact that it's a 430+ RWHP car vs your 440-480 RWHP car. On nitrous it's doable. But based off your cam specs all motor you'd get a walking all motor. Now if it was on spray your title should be "beat a Bolt on C7 with a cam+nitrous+weight reduction+e85."

Joseph1LE · 09-07-2016, 09:12 AM

Jesus you guys are idiots with all this bench racing ricer math. Using inaccurate vehicle weights and HP assumptions too. 600whp needed to beat a bolt on Stingray? 1000lb weight difference? What kind of drugs are you guys on? Javier just go to ls1tech if you want to talk about your kills this forum is a joke.

Backtoblack1LE · 09-07-2016, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph1LE

Jesus you guys are idiots with all this bench racing ricer math. Using inaccurate vehicle weights and HP assumptions too. 600whp needed to beat a bolt on Stingray? 1000lb weight difference? What kind of drugs are you guys on? Javier just go to ls1tech if you want to talk about your kills this forum is a joke.

Oh yes idiots right. I agree with 3/4th of your post. Until you realize that C7 run 10.8-11.2 with bolt ons and tune (C7 forum top list) and a L99 with PERFECT weather and 600RWHP runs into middle to top 10s, secondly the word "near" was used as in you need 550+ to beat one not 600 on the dot. You're right, let's forget those facts and go on your opinion because you must have the fastest Camaro in this thread so you are our fact checker thanks for clearing that up.

camarosspower · 09-07-2016, 10:14 AM

Damn so a bolt on c7 is as fast or a little faster than a c7 z06?

Backtoblack1LE · 09-07-2016, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by camarosspower

Damn so a bolt on c7 is as fast or a little faster than a c7 z06?

Why don't you hop over to C7 forum and look at the times for a bolt on C7. The question here isn't a C7 Z06. It's that a "full" bolt on C7 isn't a slouch. A C7 "full" bolt on vs a Camaro a basic cam making 440-480 will beat it on a track,roll, dig with equal drivers. The same way a bolt on SS here has run the same times as a ZL1 stock on this very forum. I see what you tried doing but your logic/intelligence wasn't there yet. See now why your post is flawed as well ? Bolt on SS's have run the same times as stock ZL1, in the same way a C7 "full" bolt on runs as a C7 Z06 stock, but how can that be ? Driver plays a huge roll. You are factoring driver skill in order to seem "smarter" in this thread. Remove your opinion, look at it from facts. A C7 is just a better suited once "full" bolt ons are added vs a cam Camaro.

09-02-2016, 07:30 AM	#1
jman123 Drives: 2015 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 139	Cammed 1le vs full bolt-on C7 Auto Raced this guy last week with a Full bolt-on C7. We did a 50 roll and he destroyed me lol. I had a passenger and a full tank of gas. After the race I wasn't too upset because those 8-speeds are awesome and it sounded great as it walked me. I love the c7. His buddy's started talking poop and nut hugging. That's when I decided to run him again but with my regular weight reduction. I also hopped on e85. Was on a street tune with a peak 11.7 afr at WOT. So, not optimal. We ran it again and he got the hit. I reeled him in and best him by half a car. We let off at 130. He beat me the first time by like 4 cars, and I came back a week later and embarrassed him and his nut hugging friends. I ran him n/a btw. I have both videos but I know I can't post it here. __________________ AGP Twin turbo kit, base 54/57 Borg Warner turbos, TSP stage 4 N/A cam, AGP twin 430lph e85 pump fuel system w/ flex fuel sensor, 1000cc FIC injectors, Grimm speed manual boost controller. (830 rwhp 778 rwtq @ 15.5 psi)

09-02-2016, 09:31 AM	#2
ytown87 Drives: C6 Corvette Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,264	sounds about right. the only reason I can come up with you even losing the first time by that much would be wrong gear starting out in or missing a shift. a fully bolt on tuned A8 C7 vs Cammed bolt on Camaro roll race should be very close almost every time with the auto allowing you to inch away. my best friend has a fully bolt on M7 C7 and I race him NA all the time. bottom end he gets me but I can reel him in and get ahead up to about 130-140ish and then aero plays to his benefit. with your gearing you should be better off than me against a C7. Vette owners and their buddies will never accept being beat by a Camaro though, just how it is. FL2K last year I completely destroyed a brand new A8 C7Z by about 4 cars from a 40 and he even got the jump by 2 cars before I walked by him. We had video of it and everything..Cletus from 1320 video was there but didn't get it on his camera. Next day the guy posts his go pro vids online and cut it off the moment you could see my car start to pull by him as if he won. can you blame them though?..his 90k+ Vette vs my 30k SS with maybe 10k invested and built in my garage __________________ 2008 C6 m6. Carbon creations front/rear carbon fiber wodebody fenders. Carbon fiber hood carbon fiber roof hoop carbon fiber zr1 extreme spoiler. NW 102mm tb. Ported intake manifold. Cometic .040 head gaskets. LG motorsports G6x3 cam. DSX flex fuel sensor. AEM methanol kit. Z06 brakes. Ebiach sway bars. ZR1 rep wheels and Nitto Invo tires. Monster stage 3 twin disc clutch. MGW short shifter. Corbeau race seats. Gforce race harnesses. SLP loudmouth 2 mufflers. Carbon fiber exhaust tips. RPM stage 4 transmission and Stage 3 rear diff. 3.73 gears. Vararam cai. Kooks 1 7/8 headers and x-pipe.

09-07-2016, 09:12 AM	#11
Joseph1LE Drives: 2015 Camaro SS 1LE, 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 836	Jesus you guys are idiots with all this bench racing ricer math. Using inaccurate vehicle weights and HP assumptions too. 600whp needed to beat a bolt on Stingray? 1000lb weight difference? What kind of drugs are you guys on? Javier just go to ls1tech if you want to talk about your kills this forum is a joke. __________________ 2017 GMC Canyon All Terrain- daily driver/dirt bike hauler 2015 Camaro SS 1LE- sold 2001 Camaro SS SOM M6- sold 1999 Firebird Formula A4- sold

09-02-2016, 11:45 AM	#4
Dmpsix Drives: Black L99 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,862	Do you have Youtube videos? PM me them I wanna see

09-03-2016, 11:45 AM	#7
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383

09-07-2016, 08:10 AM	#8
gangzoui Drives: camaro Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: CA Posts: 2	so switching to E85 with a 1000+ LB Disadvantage you won!

09-07-2016, 09:04 AM	#10
Backtoblack1LE Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 131	You won't take a "full bolt on" C7 with a tune unless your near 600RWHP due to the fact that it's a 430+ RWHP car vs your 440-480 RWHP car. On nitrous it's doable. But based off your cam specs all motor you'd get a walking all motor. Now if it was on spray your title should be "beat a Bolt on C7 with a cam+nitrous+weight reduction+e85."

09-07-2016, 10:14 AM	#13
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Damn so a bolt on c7 is as fast or a little faster than a c7 z06?