Manual Hill Assist

cwl011 · 01-20-2016, 09:56 AM

I was wondering if any of the manual owners out there have perfected the hill start with the hill assist on. On my car the brakes are pretty well locked on when it is activated. Also, it activates on the smallest slopes. I have stalled my car once already with the hill assist on. I was messing around with it today and i seems the best practice is to feather the clutch to where you would start to move and hold it there until the hill assist releases. Otherwise it is a rough start if you power through it. Any thoughts or ideas?

C5Txfan · 01-20-2016, 10:02 AM

In my 40+ years driving a manual never had a problem taking off on a hill / slope / incline. Wondering why we need assist now ?

cwl011 · 01-20-2016, 10:06 AM

I thought it was going to be a great thing for those really steep hill and the cold weather starts on a hill but it is kind of frustrating me.

Tr6 · 01-20-2016, 10:22 AM

Only thing I do different on hills without a real handbrake is tapping the gas pedal twice, (not revving, very gently tap to raise the rpm just a little 100-200) then releasing the clutch like on a flat surface. But I shouldn't really say anything because we don't have any hills here... some steep places like driveways or raised rail road tracks lol

nancygrl · 01-20-2016, 11:03 AM

I hate it in my 2015 so much I did the diy fix with the yaw sensor from an automatic. Hopefully there will be some sort of diy fix for the manual 6th gens.

SS 1LE · 01-20-2016, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by C5Txfan

In my years driving a manual never had a problem taking off on a hill / slope / incline. Wondering why we need assist now ?

Agreed...

The1DoubleN · 01-20-2016, 12:50 PM

Wow everyone is missing OP's point, he isn't asking about starting on hills, he's asking about not looking like an asshat when the hill assist automatically engages when you don't necessarily need it or want it and are taking off on a hill.

To OP, yes I've found the best is to feather the clutch around the release point, otherwise the brakes either don't release and you just sit and rev, or like you mentioned, you stall because you didn't rev enough and the brakes held you back.

I would LOVE if someone found a way to disable the feature all together, I find it more obnoxious than anything. I've never needed hill assist, and any manual car I've owned before this one has at least had the option of turning it on/off.

Toxicgoober · 01-20-2016, 12:51 PM

The hill assist on the 2016 is just the electronic parking brake right?

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LesBaer · 01-20-2016, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cwl011

I was wondering if any of the manual owners out there have perfected the hill start with the hill assist on. On my car the brakes are pretty well locked on when it is activated. Also, it activates on the smallest slopes. I have stalled my car once already with the hill assist on. I was messing around with it today and i seems the best practice is to feather the clutch to where you would start to move and hold it there until the hill assist releases. Otherwise it is a rough start if you power through it. Any thoughts or ideas?

This is good to know for when I get my car...thanks for posting. I haven't driven a stick since I was a teen so this is going to be fun lol

bhavyas · 01-20-2016, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by C5Txfan

In my 40+ years driving a manual never had a problem taking off on a hill / slope / incline. Wondering why we need assist now ?

Because Sir, some people still find it difficult to get the start right, esp on slopes of SF city where the car behind you is so close that u r sure to bump it if u make the slightest of mistake... I get that you are frustrated with the tech coming in and helping you out... but when they build cars, they have to think of the larger audience.. Now if they could allow the driver to have this feature on/off as per their style..that is something I agree with..

cwl011 · 01-20-2016, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LesBaer

This is good to know for when I get my car...thanks for posting. I haven't driven a stick since I was a teen so this is going to be fun lol

You will have no problem learning manual on this car, it is very forgiving and easy to drive. I am just surprise out little of an incline it take to engage the hill assist.

LesBaer · 01-20-2016, 01:31 PM

Yeah that's what I keep hearing. I think the tricky part will be trying to keep the RPMs low during the break-in period lol.

cwl011 · 01-20-2016, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LesBaer

Yeah that's what I keep hearing. I think the tricky part will be trying to keep the RPMs low during the break-in period lol.

YES!!!! However there is just enough there to satisfy you up to 4K rpms

The1DoubleN · 01-20-2016, 01:39 PM

My Subaru had HSA that you could turn on and off. I never used it, but I'm glad the car had it and didn't force me to use it.

This gets into a larger issue of the car limiting certain things I really don't like. I.e., even in Stabilitrak Competitive Mode you still have stability control active, you can never FULLY deactivate all traction/stability aids even if you wanted to, that kind of sucks too.

01-20-2016, 09:56 AM	#1
cwl011 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Media, PA Posts: 349	Manual Hill Assist I was wondering if any of the manual owners out there have perfected the hill start with the hill assist on. On my car the brakes are pretty well locked on when it is activated. Also, it activates on the smallest slopes. I have stalled my car once already with the hill assist on. I was messing around with it today and i seems the best practice is to feather the clutch to where you would start to move and hold it there until the hill assist releases. Otherwise it is a rough start if you power through it. Any thoughts or ideas?

01-20-2016, 10:22 AM	#4
Tr6 The Dogfather Drives: #1 off the line for a customer. '16 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Andover, KS Posts: 2,621	Only thing I do different on hills without a real handbrake is tapping the gas pedal twice, (not revving, very gently tap to raise the rpm just a little 100-200) then releasing the clutch like on a flat surface. But I shouldn't really say anything because we don't have any hills here... some steep places like driveways or raised rail road tracks lol __________________ 2SS, Garnet Red with Adrenalin red, NPP, MRC M6 coupe #33 off the line #1 order for Customer. Build thread HERE! Story of my delivery HERE!

01-20-2016, 01:31 PM	#12
LesBaer FMPG Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CT Posts: 1,888	Yeah that's what I keep hearing. I think the tricky part will be trying to keep the RPMs low during the break-in period lol. __________________ Ordered 3/8/16- NFG/Ceramic White, M6, MRC, NPP, 6 pots, blk blade, no sunroof, blk splitter, blk bow ties, dark tails, nav. ARH 1 7/8" ceramic coated full sys w/NPP; Maggie 9.2psi (85mm); Jannetty rough idle cam(TSP), tune and LT4 fuel system; Forgeline VX1 Black PVD (20x10,11); R88R 315's; ALPriority; BMR rear arms, bushings, DS loop; RF intake (red); nGauge 93 octane: 712rwhp, 654rwtq / E85 (E66 mix): 734rwhp, 674rwtq (SuperFlow Dyno)

01-20-2016, 10:02 AM	#2
C5Txfan Drives: 2004 Corvette Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Ft Worth Tx Posts: 115	In my 40+ years driving a manual never had a problem taking off on a hill / slope / incline. Wondering why we need assist now ?

01-20-2016, 10:06 AM	#3
cwl011 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Media, PA Posts: 349	I thought it was going to be a great thing for those really steep hill and the cold weather starts on a hill but it is kind of frustrating me.

01-20-2016, 11:03 AM	#5
nancygrl 雪の玉 Drives: '22 Z71 RST Silverado Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Posts: 3,415	I hate it in my 2015 so much I did the diy fix with the yaw sensor from an automatic. Hopefully there will be some sort of diy fix for the manual 6th gens.

01-20-2016, 12:50 PM	#7
The1DoubleN Banned Drives: Blown up '16 SS Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Chevy Dealership for Several Months Posts: 214	Wow everyone is missing OP's point, he isn't asking about starting on hills, he's asking about not looking like an asshat when the hill assist automatically engages when you don't necessarily need it or want it and are taking off on a hill. To OP, yes I've found the best is to feather the clutch around the release point, otherwise the brakes either don't release and you just sit and rev, or like you mentioned, you stall because you didn't rev enough and the brakes held you back. I would LOVE if someone found a way to disable the feature all together, I find it more obnoxious than anything. I've never needed hill assist, and any manual car I've owned before this one has at least had the option of turning it on/off.

01-20-2016, 12:51 PM	#8
Toxicgoober Drives: 2014 Maxima Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Louisiana Posts: 280	The hill assist on the 2016 is just the electronic parking brake right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-20-2016, 01:39 PM	#14
The1DoubleN Banned Drives: Blown up '16 SS Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Chevy Dealership for Several Months Posts: 214	My Subaru had HSA that you could turn on and off. I never used it, but I'm glad the car had it and didn't force me to use it. This gets into a larger issue of the car limiting certain things I really don't like. I.e., even in Stabilitrak Competitive Mode you still have stability control active, you can never FULLY deactivate all traction/stability aids even if you wanted to, that kind of sucks too.

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