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TwentyTen2SSRS · 08-22-2016, 12:22 PM

Hello all! Ordered up my BTR Stage 3 cam last week with all supporting mods including trunion upgrade.

With that said I currently have Flowmaster AT cat back, hi flow cats, stainless works headers and CAI Brand air intake. Few questions..

1. What do you think I could get Hp wise with this setup (LS3 here)

2. What about drive ability? Any issues around town? Wanting to make sure I will still have an enjoyable time grocery getting and cruising back and mountain roads. After install I will obviously be getting this dyno tuned for a second time

Thanks in advance for any replies! Greatly appreciated!

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failshift · 08-22-2016, 12:23 PM

470-480

No issue. Little different adjusting to taking off but still very drives me

Bo White · 08-22-2016, 01:49 PM

45X/46X on my local dynos. I'm 478 with ported heads.

Tim_Hamilton · 08-22-2016, 02:03 PM

I got 454rwhp with about the same mods you mentioned, except kooks headers w/o cats and ported OEM TB. Drives awesome, no issues driving around town. Do yourself a favor and video sound before and after. I didn't and wish I had

TwentyTen2SSRS · 08-22-2016, 03:31 PM

Thanks al and great idea Tim! Will do. Sort of what I was expecting. Hoping 460/470 ish bit know it's not all about the number. Pretty excited.

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TwentyTen2SSRS · 08-22-2016, 03:43 PM

Oh should say I have a ported throttle body too but not much there

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mike426 · 08-22-2016, 06:46 PM

Add gears 3:91.

TwentyTen2SSRS · 08-22-2016, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mike426

Add gears 3:91.

Add gears? I had then on mod list just didn't have on radar for this

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Jrichards73 · 08-22-2016, 11:35 PM

I've got 3.91's in mine, but i'm doing the stage 2 VVT cam. Which is as close to 3 as you can get on stock converter. Still waiting for those Kooks to go to coating though

Which trunnions did you get? I pressed in the Comp trunnions then thought better and did the bronze this weekend.

Sapper12b · 08-22-2016, 11:42 PM

Just got the BTR3 cam installed on my SS manual transmission and I put down 486 rwhp but I also added the GMPP CNC ported heads.

TwentyTen2SSRS · 08-23-2016, 06:36 PM

How much were ported heads?

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jsm00z28ss · 08-23-2016, 09:42 PM

The GMPP LS3 CNC Cylinder Head is $629.97 each at summit racing. They do come fully assembled but with that cam you will need a better valve spring. Also with a dual spring a different valve guide seal is required.

flyer08 · 08-23-2016, 10:03 PM

I went with LPE ported and milled and highly recommend them

3rdgen3 · 08-24-2016, 07:57 AM

I wouldnt expect 470rwhp unless you have ported heads or better heads.

I've got the BTR Stage 4 with stock heads but 2" long tubes, stock intake manifold and stock TB and made 475/443. Someone I know with a similar setup to mine but BTR stage 3 and 1 7/8" headers made 461/435.

EDIT: These are both in LS3/M6 cars btw.

08-22-2016, 12:22 PM	#1
TwentyTen2SSRS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,972 View My Garage	BTR Stage 3 Questions Hello all! Ordered up my BTR Stage 3 cam last week with all supporting mods including trunion upgrade. With that said I currently have Flowmaster AT cat back, hi flow cats, stainless works headers and CAI Brand air intake. Few questions.. 1. What do you think I could get Hp wise with this setup (LS3 here) 2. What about drive ability? Any issues around town? Wanting to make sure I will still have an enjoyable time grocery getting and cruising back and mountain roads. After install I will obviously be getting this dyno tuned for a second time Thanks in advance for any replies! Greatly appreciated! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Cold Air Inductions CAI • Stainless Power LT's with HFC's • Flowmaster American Thunder Cat Back • APEX Scoop and WW Relocation Kit • VMAX Ported Throttle Body • Custom Dyno Tune • Pfadt 1.25" Lowering Springs • ZL1 Rims on 275 front 315 Rear • custome underlay vinyl wrap • Anvil Spoiler • heritage grill • APR Front Splitter • Custom Emblempros emblems • ZL1 Side Skirts • 416.5 whp 410 torque (CURRENTLY) Up Next: BTR Stage 3 Cam and supporting mods (in garage now)

08-22-2016, 01:49 PM	#3
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	45X/46X on my local dynos. I'm 478 with ported heads. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

08-22-2016, 02:03 PM	#4
Tim_Hamilton Drives: 2010 2SS RS, '14 Silverado Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Tega Cay! Posts: 311	I got 454rwhp with about the same mods you mentioned, except kooks headers w/o cats and ported OEM TB. Drives awesome, no issues driving around town. Do yourself a favor and video sound before and after. I didn't and wish I had __________________ '10 SS/RS, ADM Perf SC RPM Motorsports tuned, Flowmaster catback, Kooks LT Headers, BTR Stage III CAM, CAI, ported TB, New Age Hotrods Tune, Elite Catch can, big worm graphix markers

08-22-2016, 03:31 PM	#5
TwentyTen2SSRS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,972 View My Garage	Thanks al and great idea Tim! Will do. Sort of what I was expecting. Hoping 460/470 ish bit know it's not all about the number. Pretty excited. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Cold Air Inductions CAI • Stainless Power LT's with HFC's • Flowmaster American Thunder Cat Back • APEX Scoop and WW Relocation Kit • VMAX Ported Throttle Body • Custom Dyno Tune • Pfadt 1.25" Lowering Springs • ZL1 Rims on 275 front 315 Rear • custome underlay vinyl wrap • Anvil Spoiler • heritage grill • APR Front Splitter • Custom Emblempros emblems • ZL1 Side Skirts • 416.5 whp 410 torque (CURRENTLY) Up Next: BTR Stage 3 Cam and supporting mods (in garage now)

08-22-2016, 03:43 PM	#6
TwentyTen2SSRS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,972 View My Garage	Oh should say I have a ported throttle body too but not much there Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Cold Air Inductions CAI • Stainless Power LT's with HFC's • Flowmaster American Thunder Cat Back • APEX Scoop and WW Relocation Kit • VMAX Ported Throttle Body • Custom Dyno Tune • Pfadt 1.25" Lowering Springs • ZL1 Rims on 275 front 315 Rear • custome underlay vinyl wrap • Anvil Spoiler • heritage grill • APR Front Splitter • Custom Emblempros emblems • ZL1 Side Skirts • 416.5 whp 410 torque (CURRENTLY) Up Next: BTR Stage 3 Cam and supporting mods (in garage now)

08-22-2016, 12:23 PM	#2
failshift Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,089	470-480 No issue. Little different adjusting to taking off but still very drives me

08-22-2016, 06:46 PM	#7
mike426 Drives: 2012 camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: florida Posts: 18 View My Garage	Add gears 3:91.

08-22-2016, 11:35 PM	#9
Jrichards73 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Victory Red Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 921	I've got 3.91's in mine, but i'm doing the stage 2 VVT cam. Which is as close to 3 as you can get on stock converter. Still waiting for those Kooks to go to coating though Which trunnions did you get? I pressed in the Comp trunnions then thought better and did the bronze this weekend. __________________ Updates: BTR Stage 2 VVT Cam Kit w/Smith Brothers Trunnions, Fluidampr, RX catch can, B&M Trans pan mod, Kooks Black Headers, Borla S-tunes, Eibach Multi-Pro-R2 coilovers and Swaybars, BMR Full Bushing kit with Toe and Trailing arms, RB Rotors w/EBC Pads, GForce 1400 Axles (now on order). AVH-X5800BHS in Scosche GM5201AB.

08-22-2016, 11:42 PM	#10
Sapper12b HTCC Member Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,868 View My Garage	Just got the BTR3 cam installed on my SS manual transmission and I put down 486 rwhp but I also added the GMPP CNC ported heads. __________________

08-23-2016, 06:36 PM	#11
TwentyTen2SSRS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,972 View My Garage	How much were ported heads? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Cold Air Inductions CAI • Stainless Power LT's with HFC's • Flowmaster American Thunder Cat Back • APEX Scoop and WW Relocation Kit • VMAX Ported Throttle Body • Custom Dyno Tune • Pfadt 1.25" Lowering Springs • ZL1 Rims on 275 front 315 Rear • custome underlay vinyl wrap • Anvil Spoiler • heritage grill • APR Front Splitter • Custom Emblempros emblems • ZL1 Side Skirts • 416.5 whp 410 torque (CURRENTLY) Up Next: BTR Stage 3 Cam and supporting mods (in garage now)

08-23-2016, 09:42 PM	#12
jsm00z28ss Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: linden NJ Posts: 46	The GMPP LS3 CNC Cylinder Head is $629.97 each at summit racing. They do come fully assembled but with that cam you will need a better valve spring. Also with a dual spring a different valve guide seal is required.

08-23-2016, 10:03 PM	#13
flyer08 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 3,418	I went with LPE ported and milled and highly recommend them

08-24-2016, 07:57 AM	#14
3rdgen3 10-bolt Destroyer Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS - AGM, LS3/6M Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Canukistan Posts: 860	I wouldnt expect 470rwhp unless you have ported heads or better heads. I've got the BTR Stage 4 with stock heads but 2" long tubes, stock intake manifold and stock TB and made 475/443. Someone I know with a similar setup to mine but BTR stage 3 and 1 7/8" headers made 461/435. EDIT: These are both in LS3/M6 cars btw. __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3/TR6060: Cam, Headers, Exhaust, Intake, Gears, Twin Disk, Suspension, Tuned - 475rwhp, 443rwtq