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HDRDTD · 04-09-2018, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scdrj

I'm not trying to school you as much as I'm trying to point out that the problem has not really been fixed. Not at least at the time my 14' was built. If it has been solved now, GM does not seem to be willing to help me out

BTW, transmitting it to the belt hurts nothing. If nothing else, the belt and tensioner would have the potential to help damp it further.

No worries at all.
I was just curious about the 'solid' coupler's material and if it was designed with some sort of compliant material.

Sure the tensioner would be able to adjust for a bit of 'rattle', but I just assume that if Eaton was concerned about it enough to design a coupler that would dampen/absorb some of it, it must be a concern for some reason.?

scdrj · 04-09-2018, 02:19 PM

I very good reason...noise....

Of course this is merely my opinion. But, I am a ME, and there is a plethora of people over driving, using a variety of solid couplers with different young's modulus, and yet the SC lives for thousands of miles.

I kinda have this issue with paying $68.5K (well over 70k out the door) for a "camaro" that rattles like a beater. And i will admit, my friends poking fun at me does not help. Winter before last, I drove the car twice. One of my neighbors asked me if I was having engine trouble. I asked him why he would ask such a thing (even though I already knew), he informed me that he could hear the engine rattle driving down the street...

ZO6 Bryan · 04-09-2018, 08:42 PM

I replaced mine with the warranty new supercharger in Dec of 2015. I am pretty sure mine has the solid isolator. It has been perfect ever since. So whatever they were replacing them with in late 2015 was working. Just an FYI

ODB Racing · 04-10-2018, 10:15 AM

My '15 has a knocking that sounds a lot like an isolator so I'm wondering if mine has the solid or not.

ZMEnow · 04-10-2018, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

I replaced mine with the warranty new supercharger in Dec of 2015. I am pretty sure mine has the solid isolator. It has been perfect ever since. So whatever they were replacing them with in late 2015 was working. Just an FYI

I replaced my SC in 2014 and it had the new Solid Isolator, I have never had any issues or the noted slow idle vibrations. It now has 12k miles, 300 track laps on it still no noise from the Isolator..

SecondZ28 · 04-10-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ODB Racing

My '15 has a knocking that sounds a lot like an isolator so I'm wondering if mine has the solid or not.

Mid-2014 to 2015 builds had a solid isolator.

PPV · 04-11-2018, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMEnow

2014.

The casting date on the snout was 2013 so most likely off a 2014 MY car.

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RyangAsh · 10-31-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Modern07

Silver - since you persist on going round and round and round and round in circles here - All I want you to do is to provide ONE measly example of an LSA supercharger that has failed prematurely as a direct result of changing to the solid coupler, out of the HUNDREDS of people that have been using it for the past 4 years.

It is "FACT" that switching to the solid version solves the noise problem that irritiates so many, and that is why people switch to it.

If there were documented cases of this ACTUALLY causing problems down the line then of course people wouldn't switch to it, but THERE ISN"T - and that's why I have an issue with what you are saying here.

Actually the main reason I'm in here at all is because of your insinuation about Labor rates which was 100% incorrect, but I digress...

Listen, all you have is theory on the general principles and I'm not even disagreeing with them

But until you have ACTUAL DATA on the LSA application, I'm not going to be convinced there is a serious issue with using the solid coupler that I need to be worried about.

From the dead, but I had a buddy with a V have a failed SC that had a Solid Isolator most of its life. I tend to agree with silver on this thread...

scdrj · 10-31-2018, 01:18 PM

Details?

How many miles? Over driven by how much? Redline? Was he spraying Meth. Which solid coupler?

How did it fail? As in which part of it gave up?

silversleeper · 10-31-2018, 02:51 PM

Agree, not to be argumentative, but if e.g. was 30% overdriven spraying meth and the bearing went out that's so different than stock and rotors ate each other. It would be nice to know otherwise we can't figure out much from the example of that failure.

04-09-2018, 08:42 PM	#199
ZO6 Bryan Drives: 02 Z06, 95 Trans Am, 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southeast Posts: 1,838 View My Garage	I replaced mine with the warranty new supercharger in Dec of 2015. I am pretty sure mine has the solid isolator. It has been perfect ever since. So whatever they were replacing them with in late 2015 was working. Just an FYI __________________ Bryan 2018 ZL1 M6

04-10-2018, 10:15 AM	#200
ODB Racing Drives: 2015 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Alabama Posts: 13	My '15 has a knocking that sounds a lot like an isolator so I'm wondering if mine has the solid or not. __________________ '15 ZL1 Auto JRE 75rwhp package. 7.28@98 '87 T-Type BBC single turbo, 4.26@176 on 275's

04-09-2018, 02:19 PM	#198
scdrj Drives: 2014 ZL-1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: In front of a computer. Posts: 211	I very good reason...noise.... Of course this is merely my opinion. But, I am a ME, and there is a plethora of people over driving, using a variety of solid couplers with different young's modulus, and yet the SC lives for thousands of miles. I kinda have this issue with paying $68.5K (well over 70k out the door) for a "camaro" that rattles like a beater. And i will admit, my friends poking fun at me does not help. Winter before last, I drove the car twice. One of my neighbors asked me if I was having engine trouble. I asked him why he would ask such a thing (even though I already knew), he informed me that he could hear the engine rattle driving down the street...

10-31-2018, 01:18 PM	#205
scdrj Drives: 2014 ZL-1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: In front of a computer. Posts: 211	Details? How many miles? Over driven by how much? Redline? Was he spraying Meth. Which solid coupler? How did it fail? As in which part of it gave up?

10-31-2018, 02:51 PM	#206
silversleeper Big Crow Drives: '13 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: California Posts: 1,483	Agree, not to be argumentative, but if e.g. was 30% overdriven spraying meth and the bearing went out that's so different than stock and rotors ate each other. It would be nice to know otherwise we can't figure out much from the example of that failure.