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Rob3D · 01-24-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Wouldn't that be like putting SS emblems on a V6. LOL..

Maybe his wife made him do it...

BigBoyBlue · 01-24-2014, 04:17 PM

A few points:

1. I prefer stick all the time. I find that I'm less alert when driving automatics. I grew up in NYC and didn't know how to drive a stick until I was 25 (I'm 41 now). Do I enjoy my wife's automatic SUV sometimes? Yes, but not in a sportscar/musclecar.

2. Every automatic transmission that I have ever had (pre-2000) had problems and needed to be rebuilt. Manual transmissions are much stronger. They are less complicated and thus have less problems.

3. Ferrari's are not automatics!

4. I could live with a sequential manual gearbox or the dual clutchless manual that BMW had. I drove M3s, M5s, and M6s with this transmission at BMW's M School. They were ok, but I still prefer manual. That said, the DCT made it easier to drive around the racetrack without having to worry about shifting perfectly.

5. Manuals may make up only 7% of car sales in the US, but what percentage of sports cars are sold as manuals? I'm thinking it's well over 50%.

6. The Stick's last true market is the US and Canada. When BMW designed the last (not latest) version of the M5, they made the mistake of only offering a SMG or DCT (I forget which one). There was such an outcry from US customers that they had to reverse engineer a manual transmission for the M5. It was only offered in North America. This was less than 10 years ago. I'm not sure that manuals will ever die in the US/Canada. We'll hold on to them just like our guns. Molon Labe!

7. My wife can't drive manual, so I love the fact that she can't drive MY car and curb my rims or get dings in the door. It's not theft deterrent, but wife deterrent.

spyderbuddy · 01-24-2014, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob3D

So you want people to THINK you're driving a stick?

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Wouldn't that be like putting SS emblems on a V6. LOL..

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Originally Posted by camarovigoa

No... It would be like putting a V6 emblem on an SS LOL! No there isnt a V6 emblem but you get what im saying

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Originally Posted by Rob3D

Maybe his wife made him do it...

Would not even suggested this if I thought a bunch of you kids would get butt hurt. Removed pics

Angrybird 12 · 01-24-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by spyderbuddy

Would not even suggested this if I thought a bunch of you kids would get butt hurt. Removed pics

They were jokes man... I actually think it's a cool mod.

Blue Thunder · 01-24-2014, 04:38 PM

The pistol grip shifter has really increased the pleasure of using tap shift for me. My hand is nearly always on the shifter handle anyways. It's much more natural. And with the manual boot, looks cool too.

Sent from my Galaxy S4

HDRDTD · 01-24-2014, 04:47 PM

I think it's in part due to older people (like me) that grew up believing that any true muscle car should be a manual.

Today's automatics are nothing like your grandpa's powerglide.

my 2011 2SS/RS Vert was a stick, and so is my 2013 ZL1 Vert. Like I said, to me a muscle car should be a stick. Plus I do like rowing the boat thru all the gears. It's just plain fun.

having said that, If my Camaro was truely a year round DD (I store it for the winter, and my daily round trip to work is 65 miles), then I just might opt for the auto. stop and go traffic can be a real pain sometimes on the ole clutch foot.

but it's not, so it ain't.

Rob3D · 01-24-2014, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

They were jokes man... I actually think it's a cool mod.

Mr Twisty · 01-24-2014, 05:36 PM

You're all a bunch of pansies... with your six forward gears, and your manuals with syncro's, then there's your pansy "OMG I CAN'T STOP" abs, and your sissy traction control.....

The only ones that aren't girlymen are Pogo and PQ... and we've been having our doubts about PQ lately

So, unless you've mastered a RTLO twin stick, or kept racing AFTER your syncro's puked, or got your left leg whacked off and can joke about it... you're probably a pansy.

This is just sarcastic humor, if it offended...well... you're a pansy

Rob3D · 01-24-2014, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

You're all a bunch of pansies... with your six forward gears, and your manuals with syncro's, then there's your pansy "OMG I CAN'T STOP" abs, and your sissy traction control.....

The only ones that aren't girlymen are Pogo and PQ... and we've been having our doubts about PQ lately

So, unless you've mastered a RTLO twin stick, or kept racing AFTER your syncro's puked, or got your left leg whacked off and can joke about it... you're probably a pansy.

This is just sarcastic humor, if it offended...well... you're a pansy

You had me at "you're all a bunch of pansies."

Mr Twisty · 01-24-2014, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob3D

You had me at "you're all a bunch of pansies."

Someone should make a 'stick v slushbox' thread monthly just for entertainment

..... oh wait.....

Stevew · 01-24-2014, 06:04 PM

I prefer my manual because I grew up manual transmissions. My first car was a 66 Chevell SS. I have not mastered paddle shifter. I was driving my wife's car fairly aggressively and down shifted when I meant to up shift.

Every time my wife drives my car she says she wishes she had bought a manual.

I don't hate autos, I just drive a stick better.

ksu04 · 01-24-2014, 06:40 PM

My SS was an auto, ZL1 is a manual. Next time will probably stick with the auto just to get remote start...

jdsblueray2013 · 01-24-2014, 06:47 PM

All I know is I beat a 2010 stick 2ss, with my 2013 2ss auto, both cars were bone stock... just sayin...

Mwalterhouse · 01-24-2014, 06:48 PM

I considered an automatic before finding my current LS3. No hate here, it is all personal preference.

01-24-2014, 04:17 PM	#72
BigBoyBlue Go NY Giants & NY Rangers Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 782	A few points: 1. I prefer stick all the time. I find that I'm less alert when driving automatics. I grew up in NYC and didn't know how to drive a stick until I was 25 (I'm 41 now). Do I enjoy my wife's automatic SUV sometimes? Yes, but not in a sportscar/musclecar. 2. Every automatic transmission that I have ever had (pre-2000) had problems and needed to be rebuilt. Manual transmissions are much stronger. They are less complicated and thus have less problems. 3. Ferrari's are not automatics! 4. I could live with a sequential manual gearbox or the dual clutchless manual that BMW had. I drove M3s, M5s, and M6s with this transmission at BMW's M School. They were ok, but I still prefer manual. That said, the DCT made it easier to drive around the racetrack without having to worry about shifting perfectly. 5. Manuals may make up only 7% of car sales in the US, but what percentage of sports cars are sold as manuals? I'm thinking it's well over 50%. 6. The Stick's last true market is the US and Canada. When BMW designed the last (not latest) version of the M5, they made the mistake of only offering a SMG or DCT (I forget which one). There was such an outcry from US customers that they had to reverse engineer a manual transmission for the M5. It was only offered in North America. This was less than 10 years ago. I'm not sure that manuals will ever die in the US/Canada. We'll hold on to them just like our guns. Molon Labe! 7. My wife can't drive manual, so I love the fact that she can't drive MY car and curb my rims or get dings in the door. It's not theft deterrent, but wife deterrent. __________________ Molon Labe! Last edited by BigBoyBlue; 01-24-2014 at 08:24 PM.

01-24-2014, 04:38 PM	#75
Blue Thunder Drives: 2014 Chevy Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Chicagoland, Illinois Posts: 250 View My Garage	The pistol grip shifter has really increased the pleasure of using tap shift for me. My hand is nearly always on the shifter handle anyways. It's much more natural. And with the manual boot, looks cool too. Sent from my Galaxy S4 __________________ 2014 Chevy Camaro 1SS/RS L99 377rwhp/396rwtq Stainless Power 1-7/8 headers, HF cats Magnaflow 3" tru-x cat back exhaust NicKey Dyno tune Bo White ported throttle body Elite Engineering Catch Can CAI air intake GM Strut Brace Bar JL Audio 12w3 sub, JX1000/1d amp CFD Carbon Fiber pistol grip TapShift shifter EGX rear window louvers 4500k HID head and fog lights

01-24-2014, 05:36 PM	#78
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	You're all a bunch of pansies... with your six forward gears, and your manuals with syncro's, then there's your pansy "OMG I CAN'T STOP" abs, and your sissy traction control..... The only ones that aren't girlymen are Pogo and PQ... and we've been having our doubts about PQ lately So, unless you've mastered a RTLO twin stick, or kept racing AFTER your syncro's puked, or got your left leg whacked off and can joke about it... you're probably a pansy. This is just sarcastic humor, if it offended...well... you're a pansy __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

01-24-2014, 06:40 PM	#82
ksu04 Drives: '13 ZL1, '14 Harley SGS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 73	My SS was an auto, ZL1 is a manual. Next time will probably stick with the auto just to get remote start... __________________ "...4.11 posi trac out back, 750 double pumper, edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop up pistons, turbojet 390 horsepower, we're talking some f*^ing muscle"

01-24-2014, 04:47 PM	#76
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	I think it's in part due to older people (like me) that grew up believing that any true muscle car should be a manual. Today's automatics are nothing like your grandpa's powerglide. my 2011 2SS/RS Vert was a stick, and so is my 2013 ZL1 Vert. Like I said, to me a muscle car should be a stick. Plus I do like rowing the boat thru all the gears. It's just plain fun. having said that, If my Camaro was truely a year round DD (I store it for the winter, and my daily round trip to work is 65 miles), then I just might opt for the auto. stop and go traffic can be a real pain sometimes on the ole clutch foot. but it's not, so it ain't.

01-24-2014, 06:04 PM	#81
Stevew Stevew Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS and 2012 Corvette Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mississippi Posts: 34	I prefer my manual because I grew up manual transmissions. My first car was a 66 Chevell SS. I have not mastered paddle shifter. I was driving my wife's car fairly aggressively and down shifted when I meant to up shift. Every time my wife drives my car she says she wishes she had bought a manual. I don't hate autos, I just drive a stick better.

01-24-2014, 06:47 PM	#83
jdsblueray2013 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2ssrs Blue Ray Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Chi town, south suburbs Posts: 613 View My Garage	All I know is I beat a 2010 stick 2ss, with my 2013 2ss auto, both cars were bone stock... just sayin...

01-24-2014, 06:48 PM	#84
Mwalterhouse Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan Posts: 1,088 View My Garage	I considered an automatic before finding my current LS3. No hate here, it is all personal preference.