My Engine is Gone !

[Alot9439]

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

If the intake actually caused the issue, warranty may be trouble. If not, then your mods absolutely will not void your warranty, and you could have a claim there.

Bring it to the dealer, not the shop.

I took it to the shop because I thought it would be a simple fix, I thought wrong. Right now I think its either it being caused by water damage (resolved through insurance). if thats not the case I might have a warrantee claim. It could go both ways I might have to go out of pocket both ways.

[jake2212]

maybe a ls7 upgrade in the future?

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by Mobyd

time to get the 427 and be a sleeper!

This guy seems to have the right thought process

[RollaMo]

Originally Posted by Da Mammer

Just throwing it out there cuz I know from first hand that Chevy does NOT WARRANTY an engine that has sucked water- stock air box or not. If it did suck water, It's going to be an insurance claim NOT warranty. If it just happened to throw a rod/piston for no reason/by chance then it will be warranty.

Originally Posted by ex11b90

Have to agree with Da Mammer, same thing happened to our brand new Caravan last year (hadn't even made payment #1!!!) in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Not a warranty issue but insurance should pay for it, but it truly sucks sorry for your bad luck!

Exactly!

Warranty is for a factory parts defect or failure.

What the OP is describing is really no different than having an accident, and sustaining serious damage.
Warranty does not cover that either.

As mentioned, this is why you have insurance.

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by RollaMo

Exactly!

Warranty is for a factory parts defect or failure.

What the OP is describing is really no different than having an accident, and sustaining serious damage.
Warranty does not cover that either.

As mentioned, this is why you have insurance.

Unless of course the damage was caused by the lifter dropping, in which case if he falls within the VINs affected by the lifter TSB then he would be covered under warranty.

[Russell James]

Originally Posted by The Stig

Without pictures of the engine it's hard to say what caused the lifter to drop, but hydrolocking shouldn't have caused a lifter to drop.

That and it's very easy to tell if the engine is hydrolocked - water in the intake. If there's no water in the intake, then it wasn't hydrolocked.

When I was a tech, saw plenty of hydro-locked engines where a lifter destroys the block. Many things can happen.

Full of water, the combustion chamber is now solid. Can bend a rod, break a piston, bend valves, bend pushrods....

Push rods have become a bit stronger lately since the bendable LS1 days. Try to open a valve into a solid combustion chamber.... can break the lifter right out of the block. It's just thin cast iron in that area, the lifters, valves, PR's are steel.

Water depth is only one factor. Basically have to be inching along to avoid a wave. Any speed at all and that wave your wide front tires are pushing will be a lot higher than you think. Those big wide 20s are going to push a big wave right into the intake, especially aftermarkeet ones. The OE intake has been trough tested to go pretty deep. Aftermarket ones... get dyno tested for hp, not water ingestion. With any aftermarket intake, you must drive around standing water. Some are worse than others, some are horrible.

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by Russell James

When I was a tech, saw plenty of hydro-locked engines where a lifter destroys the block. Many things can happen.

Full of water, the combustion chamber is now solid. Can bend a rod, break a piston, bend valves, bend pushrods....

Push rods have become a bit stronger lately since the bendable LS1 days. Try to open a valve into a solid combustion chamber.... can break the lifter right out of the block. It's just thin cast iron in that area, the lifters, valves, PR's are steel.

Water depth is only one factor. Basically have to be inching along to avoid a wave. Any speed at all and that wave your wide front tires are pushing will be a lot higher than you think. Those big wide 20s are going to push a big wave right into the intake, especially aftermarkeet ones. The OE intake has been trough tested to go pretty deep. Aftermarket ones... get dyno tested for hp, not water ingestion. With any aftermarket intake, you must drive around standing water. Some are worse than others, some are horrible.

Exactly what I'm saying - if his engine was actually hydrolocked, it'd be pretty obvious once you took the intake manifold off.

[Alot9439]

Originally Posted by Russell James

When I was a tech, saw plenty of hydro-locked engines where a lifter destroys the block. Many things can happen.

Full of water, the combustion chamber is now solid. Can bend a rod, break a piston, bend valves, bend pushrods....

Push rods have become a bit stronger lately since the bendable LS1 days. Try to open a valve into a solid combustion chamber.... can break the lifter right out of the block. It's just thin cast iron in that area, the lifters, valves, PR's are steel.

Water depth is only one factor. Basically have to be inching along to avoid a wave. Any speed at all and that wave your wide front tires are pushing will be a lot higher than you think. Those big wide 20s are going to push a big wave right into the intake, especially aftermarkeet ones. The OE intake has been trough tested to go pretty deep. Aftermarket ones... get dyno tested for hp, not water ingestion. With any aftermarket intake, you must drive around standing water. Some are worse than others, some are horrible.

Thanks for your feed back I am pretty sure Those waves of water as you said might be the case because I saw all types of cars driving through lesson learned I guess . I am really holding my breath I am just glad I didn't tune it yet was gonna do so next week so if its not water related the powertrain warranty should cover it.

[myold88]

Originally Posted by RollaMo

Exactly!

Warranty is for a factory parts defect or failure.

What the OP is describing is really no different than having an accident, and sustaining serious damage.
Warranty does not cover that either.

As mentioned, this is why you have insurance.

Finally ! It's a insurance comp claim. Get it to your Chevy dealer and let the
insurance co pay them direct 100%, less your comp ded and possibly some
depreciation/betterment.
Why would GM have anything to do with this ?

[MADBADGER]

just curious, what intake did you have on the car? CAI, inc?

[Sales @ CAI Inc]

Originally Posted by MADBADGER

just curious, what intake did you have on the car? CAI, inc?

I seriously doubt he has ours, our intake is sealed off more than any other aftermarket CAI available for this vehicle, and the filter stays in the stock location.

Most likely he has a long tube set-up or an open element system in which the water could have rushed up and over the open box.

[QUICKSS]

Headers and no tune? Could that be the culprit?

[MADBADGER]

Originally Posted by Alot9439

I do have aftermarket parts (Headers,exhaust,CAI) not tuned though so I am not sure about warranty.

Which CAI did he mean?

This is why I assumed maybe CAI inc.

[Mr Monte]

Time for a 7.0L. I've been looking at putting this motor in my 2008 Avalanche LTZ.

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