Hey Al - Can you talk to us about launch/bog issues?

Infern0 · 10-24-2017, 07:52 AM

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bobby35ny · 10-24-2017, 01:15 PM

+1
Love to have this major issue fixed!!!

Ron66Vette&10SS · 10-24-2017, 10:56 PM

Same here......

MOSAIC BLACK 1LE · 10-25-2017, 09:56 AM

I would hate to have to tune mine out so this issues could go away or get better. Throwing out the warranty for something that could potentially be fixed by GM would suck.

6spdzl1 · 10-25-2017, 08:13 PM

Another one for getting the bog issue fixed.

Camaro#7 · 10-30-2017, 08:56 AM

One more for the list!

PhreddT · 10-31-2017, 07:38 AM

I would like to see a fix for this as well.

vtirocz · 10-31-2017, 08:04 PM

Feels like this one deserves an answer!

Norm Peterson · 11-01-2017, 08:57 AM

Interested in this one as well, as it could well affect a future purchase decision.

Guys, what exactly is happening? Is it like a physical dead band in the pedal where nothing happens no matter how long you wait or is it more like a time delay that's more noticeable when you open the throttle rapidly from any amount of light throttle once you're already moving?

Norm

Infern0 · 11-01-2017, 10:48 AM

I think the consensus for the most part is that it would have only changed a small amount of people's mind in their purchase decision. And in those cases a percentage of those would have still got a ZL1, but maybe an auto.

There's a ton to read on this topic. Ultimately it seems like the car is pulling timing during launches and so instead of taking of instantly like a bat out of hell, the car nose-dives for a moment while it regains it's composure for a split-second -this ultimately prevents anything quicker than a 1.7 60'.

Most discussion is here: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498180

Thanks for the support.

PinHead · 11-01-2017, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Infern0

From the outside looking in, this doesn't appear to be getting the attention virtually every M6 owner is looking for. It seems like it's sitting in a queue for a team that hasn't yet met to discuss.

Is this something you/GM believes isn't yet right?

Will there be a "fix"?

Is this for warranty purposes or is there more to it?

Had this gone unnoticed until now?

HELP?

+1 ESPECIALLY WHEN GM ANNOUNCED AT SEMA THEY'RE SUPPORTING THE GEN6 DRAG STRIP PERFORMANCE PROGRAM....??????

They knew of the Car's limitations and performance way before release and still released it. All those laps at the Proving Grounds told them so.

NOW PLEASE FIX IT AND RETROFIT ALL THE CARS.

Quote:

Chevrolet Performance Drag Development Program Adds Camaro ZL1

TARGETED ENHANCEMENTS ENABLE 10-SECOND QUARTER-MILE ELAPSED TIMES

http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/...amaro-zl1.html

That leaves a bad taste, as the ZL1 1LE was touted to be the Extreme Track Package yet the Car's De-Tuned???? This would never fly during the 1969 COPO Program. This also doesn't sound like "Extreme" to me.

1LEMATT · 11-01-2017, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinHead

That leaves a bad taste, as the ZL1 1LE was touted to be the Extreme Track Package yet the Car's De-Tuned???? This would never fly during the 1969 COPO Program.

FYI, 99.99% of engines on the market are "de-tuned" from what they are capable of...for countless reasons.

PinHead · 11-01-2017, 11:37 AM

All they need to do is add an additional Track Mode to the existing programming, (i.e. Drag Mode) and fix the M6 Launch Issue in the existing Track Mode(s).

PinHead · 11-01-2017, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1LEMATT

FYI, 99.99% of engines on the market are "de-tuned" from what they are capable of...for countless reasons.

For a Daily Driver yes, but I'd bet they wouldn't de-tune the GT4-R, ( Btw, it also has a real track Trans/Rear Axle Combo).

Track Cars shouldn't be de-tuned, (i.e. ZL1 1LE)

I'd gladly give up the Gm Warranty if they wouldn't de-tune the Car.

10-24-2017, 07:52 AM	#1
Infern0 Bring It Drives: In Between Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2,929 View My Garage	Hey Al - Can you talk to us about launch/bog issues? ** THREAD CLOSED ** Please show your support through constructive discussion in the new thread here: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515791 __________________ 2017 Camaro ZL1 M6 - Everything but the sunroof - Sold 2010 Camaro SS - 650RWHP Daily Driver - Traded Last edited by Infern0; 12-10-2017 at 07:34 PM.

10-24-2017, 01:15 PM	#2
bobby35ny Drives: 18 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South East, FL Posts: 3,024	+1 Love to have this major issue fixed!!! __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Bog City, 2013 ZL1 M6, 2010 2SS M6 ZL1::J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

10-24-2017, 10:56 PM	#3
Ron66Vette&10SS Plays with Hot Wheels Drives: '17 Jet Black ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Derby, Kansas Posts: 849	Same here...... __________________ Previous Cars: '78 Z28, '92 Z28, '95 Z28, '85 Corvette, '01 SS, '96 Z28, '04 Z06 Corvette, '10 SS, '13 SS Hot Wheels Current Cars: '17 ZL1(daily driver), '04 Trailblazer (rain & snow), '66 Corvette (restoring)

10-25-2017, 08:13 PM	#5
6spdzl1 Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: alabama Posts: 8	Another one for getting the bog issue fixed. __________________ 2017 ZL1 Coupe 6spd Garnet Red Tintcoat 2018 Corvette C7 Auto Black Rose Mettalic (Wife's)

10-31-2017, 08:04 PM	#8
vtirocz Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Indy Posts: 2,460	Feels like this one deserves an answer! __________________ 2017 Camaro 1SS, M6, Hurst shifter, Hyper Blue, NPP, Gray Split Spoke Wheels Best 1/4 Mile: 12.24 @ 115.9 mph

10-25-2017, 09:56 AM	#4
MOSAIC BLACK 1LE Drives: Mosaic Black ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Posts: 118	I would hate to have to tune mine out so this issues could go away or get better. Throwing out the warranty for something that could potentially be fixed by GM would suck.

10-30-2017, 08:56 AM	#6
Camaro#7 Drives: 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 1LE, A10 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Carlsbad, NM Posts: 106	One more for the list!

10-31-2017, 07:38 AM	#7
PhreddT Drive fast, take chances. Drives: 69 Z/28, 85 SS Monte, 01 2500HD Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: West Chicago, IL. Posts: 127 View My Garage	I would like to see a fix for this as well. __________________ 18' ZL1 1LE, Mosaic Blk, PDR, CF Trim, CF Fuel, TM TB, CAI Elite Carbon Series

11-01-2017, 08:57 AM	#9
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	Interested in this one as well, as it could well affect a future purchase decision. Guys, what exactly is happening? Is it like a physical dead band in the pedal where nothing happens no matter how long you wait or is it more like a time delay that's more noticeable when you open the throttle rapidly from any amount of light throttle once you're already moving? Norm __________________ '08 GT coupe 5M (the occasional track toy) '19 WRX 6M (the family sedan . . . seriously)

11-01-2017, 10:48 AM	#10
Infern0 Bring It Drives: In Between Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2,929 View My Garage	I think the consensus for the most part is that it would have only changed a small amount of people's mind in their purchase decision. And in those cases a percentage of those would have still got a ZL1, but maybe an auto. There's a ton to read on this topic. Ultimately it seems like the car is pulling timing during launches and so instead of taking of instantly like a bat out of hell, the car nose-dives for a moment while it regains it's composure for a split-second -this ultimately prevents anything quicker than a 1.7 60'. Most discussion is here: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498180 Thanks for the support. __________________ 2017 Camaro ZL1 M6 - Everything but the sunroof - Sold 2010 Camaro SS - 650RWHP Daily Driver - Traded

11-01-2017, 11:37 AM	#13
PinHead Banned Drives: Duramax Join Date: May 2017 Location: West of the Continential Divide Posts: 878	All they need to do is add an additional Track Mode to the existing programming, (i.e. Drag Mode) and fix the M6 Launch Issue in the existing Track Mode(s).