My conversation with a salesman - ZL1 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Alaskan SS · 12-21-2014, 09:14 PM

So I was e-mailing a salesman about possibly trading in my 2010 2SS. Not that I would ever pay a dealer markup, but I think he's trying to pull one over on me. Here's our conversation:

Him:

Hi Guy,
My name is ######## and I wanted to thank for your inquiry on the 2014 Camaro.
Stock# E9802278 2014 Chevrolet CAMARO ZL1 New Ashen Gray Metallic
MSRP $ 70,719.
Less -$ 3,500.
Your Price $ 67,219.

Please call me to arrange a test drive

Me:

Hello Sir:

A few questions...

Your website shows this car for $65,719. You quote my price for $2000 higher. Can you explain the difference, please?

Does your price include a dealer markup?

How do you guys do test drives in these types of cars this time of year?

Thank you.

Guy

Him:

Hi Michelle,

Thank you for your reply, sorry for the confusion there is a $5K Dealer markup on this Camaro as it is a very limited production Camaro and is projected to be a valuable collector in time.

The test drives would be weather permitting, when would you like to come in and take a look?

Best Regards,

########

My question to the forum: Limited production? Valuable Collector? Really?

The email address they have in their system is tied to the misses's name (this is why he called me Michelle), since she bought her truck there brand new in 2007, but I make sure all the maintenance gets done. Maybe he thinks I'm her and don't know any better. Anyway, just thought I'd share...

tabio42 · 12-21-2014, 09:18 PM

Sounds like he is being a douche salesman. Someone just posted that they got their ZL1 for very significant discount so I don't see how a markup can apply. If you are limited on dealers in your area, I'm sure a CONUS dealer will ship you one.

pktrusty · 12-21-2014, 09:19 PM

I wouldn't pay that much. He maybe referring to color and options but I didn't buy my car to sit in a garage and marginally offset inflation in 20 yrs.

Z/28Dan · 12-21-2014, 09:20 PM

If you're serious about the ZL1, pick up the phone or go in person. Everyone is wasting their time in this email exchange.

Your title said "conversation with a salesman"

tabio42 · 12-21-2014, 09:21 PM

Here it is. Two threads down.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388503

Stephen12ZL1 · 12-21-2014, 09:26 PM

the salesman's son must need a G.I. Joe with a kung fu grip for Christmas

Alaskan SS · 12-21-2014, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabio42

Here it is. Two threads down.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388503

Thanks, tabio. I just paid the thing off. I may sit on not having a car payment for awhile. But this is enticing...

onewaydave · 12-21-2014, 11:03 PM

It is very enticing, they have had that AGM ZL1 at Alaska Sales for awhile.

Alaskan SS · 12-21-2014, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewaydave

It is very enticing, they have had that AGM ZL1 at Alaska Sales for awhile.

Yeah, they have. I think it's been there since the spring.

Snakedriver · 12-21-2014, 11:40 PM

Hard to believe any dealer would ask for a ADM on a ZL1, I would think a substantial discount would be possible, theres no shortage of them.

Raven87 · 12-22-2014, 03:24 AM

There are lots of people out there working the wrong job as a sales person or who are working the right job but at a greedy dealership.

I've ran into sales staff like the OP has in this thread and they are legion. The key to minimizing this is to actually visit the dealership rather than try to bargain by email.

In the sales person's defense, they have no way of knowing how serious you really are unless you are in the flesh. It's just when they are clearly out of touch with the market or do not know their product that I really get annoyed.

And still, there are many that do not! Be patient and if at is a car you are interested in, at least visit the dealership and ask for the sales manager if you need to. You just never know when you got Salesman Joe's first day as a car salesman!

lbls1 · 12-22-2014, 08:25 AM

I was checking the date to see whether this thread was from a couple of years ago. Are you kidding???? I was in a bidding war when I shopped ZLs a year ago. Dealers can't give them away fast enough. This is a very naive dealer if they're trying to get a mark-up on the ZL this late in the game.

el ess A · 12-22-2014, 09:45 AM

The ADM is likely the reason they still have the car. Idiots.

jon6.0 · 12-22-2014, 09:49 AM

Plus dealers doing 20% off on them right now. Screw that noise.

12-21-2014, 09:14 PM	#1
Alaskan SS Drives: 2010 IBM 2SS/RS w/ M6, sunroof Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 186	My conversation with a salesman - ZL1 So I was e-mailing a salesman about possibly trading in my 2010 2SS. Not that I would ever pay a dealer markup, but I think he's trying to pull one over on me. Here's our conversation: Him: Hi Guy, My name is ######## and I wanted to thank for your inquiry on the 2014 Camaro. Stock# E9802278 2014 Chevrolet CAMARO ZL1 New Ashen Gray Metallic MSRP $ 70,719. Less -$ 3,500. Your Price $ 67,219. Please call me to arrange a test drive Me: Hello Sir: A few questions... Your website shows this car for $65,719. You quote my price for $2000 higher. Can you explain the difference, please? Does your price include a dealer markup? How do you guys do test drives in these types of cars this time of year? Thank you. Guy Him: Hi Michelle, Thank you for your reply, sorry for the confusion there is a $5K Dealer markup on this Camaro as it is a very limited production Camaro and is projected to be a valuable collector in time. The test drives would be weather permitting, when would you like to come in and take a look? Best Regards, ######## My question to the forum: Limited production? Valuable Collector? Really? The email address they have in their system is tied to the misses's name (this is why he called me Michelle), since she bought her truck there brand new in 2007, but I make sure all the maintenance gets done. Maybe he thinks I'm her and don't know any better. Anyway, just thought I'd share...

12-21-2014, 09:20 PM	#4
Z/28Dan Drives: 2013 HWSE Indy Festial #26 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 2,670 View My Garage	If you're serious about the ZL1, pick up the phone or go in person. Everyone is wasting their time in this email exchange. Your title said "conversation with a salesman" __________________ There are only so many days in your lifetime. So get out and drive your Camaro... Dan

12-21-2014, 09:26 PM	#6
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,808	the salesman's son must need a G.I. Joe with a kung fu grip for Christmas __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold) Last edited by Stephen12ZL1; 12-22-2014 at 06:47 AM.

12-21-2014, 11:03 PM	#8
onewaydave Innocent Bystander Drives: 2013 ZL1 BRM/2002 35th SS/2009 GMC Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 385 View My Garage	It is very enticing, they have had that AGM ZL1 at Alaska Sales for awhile. __________________ Living on the RaGgEd EdGe!

12-22-2014, 03:24 AM	#11
Raven87 C'mon- really? Drives: Looking for a ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nortwestern Ohio Posts: 1,966 View My Garage	There are lots of people out there working the wrong job as a sales person or who are working the right job but at a greedy dealership. I've ran into sales staff like the OP has in this thread and they are legion. The key to minimizing this is to actually visit the dealership rather than try to bargain by email. In the sales person's defense, they have no way of knowing how serious you really are unless you are in the flesh. It's just when they are clearly out of touch with the market or do not know their product that I really get annoyed. And still, there are many that do not! Be patient and if at is a car you are interested in, at least visit the dealership and ask for the sales manager if you need to. You just never know when you got Salesman Joe's first day as a car salesman! __________________ Steve 2018 Camaro 2SS 1LE Black #3805 - SOLD

12-21-2014, 09:18 PM	#2
tabio42 Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	Sounds like he is being a douche salesman. Someone just posted that they got their ZL1 for very significant discount so I don't see how a markup can apply. If you are limited on dealers in your area, I'm sure a CONUS dealer will ship you one.

12-21-2014, 09:19 PM	#3
pktrusty Drives: 2013 ZL1- 850 JDP Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Sandy, Utah Posts: 75 View My Garage	I wouldn't pay that much. He maybe referring to color and options but I didn't buy my car to sit in a garage and marginally offset inflation in 20 yrs.

12-21-2014, 09:21 PM	#5
tabio42 Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	Here it is. Two threads down. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388503

12-21-2014, 11:40 PM	#10
Snakedriver Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 288	Hard to believe any dealer would ask for a ADM on a ZL1, I would think a substantial discount would be possible, theres no shortage of them.

12-22-2014, 08:25 AM	#12
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,022	I was checking the date to see whether this thread was from a couple of years ago. Are you kidding???? I was in a bidding war when I shopped ZLs a year ago. Dealers can't give them away fast enough. This is a very naive dealer if they're trying to get a mark-up on the ZL this late in the game. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

12-22-2014, 09:45 AM	#13
el ess A Older Than Dirt Drives: 2010 & 2013 Camaros Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Aiken, SC Posts: 4,564	The ADM is likely the reason they still have the car. Idiots. __________________ 2010 2SS TE, 1 of 822/2013 Camaro ZL1 vert, 1 of 54

12-22-2014, 09:49 AM	#14
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	Plus dealers doing 20% off on them right now. Screw that noise. __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)