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Old 06-09-2022, 09:04 PM   #15
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Glad Bo is ok physically but psychologically this may linger. In this day and age in this type of situation it'd be best to roll up the windows, lock the doors and call 911 immediately. If confronted DRIVE OFF if you can. Better to remove yourself from the situation and inform/explain to LE than getting involved in a shoot-out with some street urchins. Unfortunately this is the society we live in today. Hope Bo is doing well.
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Old 06-09-2022, 09:05 PM   #16
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Just terrible. Glad Bo is ok. `
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Old 06-10-2022, 02:01 AM   #17
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I really feel for you Bo. I can't believe the society that we live in today, it's like someone said it's like the wild west all over again. I'm glad your ok though and I'm sorry about your car hopefully it all works out for you.
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Old 06-10-2022, 04:59 AM   #18
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A specific flaw that gets me on the gen 5 Camaros is the fact a standard 1911 .45 won't fit in the console.
If you read the article 4 men exited the vehicle and all were carrying guns. You have 4 vs 1. 1911s are what 7+1? ....have to cock it to chamber a round. So realistically you always have 7, not 8. I'd be hard pressed to even contemplate taking the odds with an AR.



Sucks to hear this, especially when its someone as respected as Bo. Hope he gets his car back the way it was. Not stripped or crashed.
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Old 06-10-2022, 07:08 AM   #19
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If you read the article 4 men exited the vehicle and all were carrying guns. You have 4 vs 1. 1911s are what 7+1? ....have to cock it to chamber a round. So realistically you always have 7, not 8. I'd be hard pressed to even contemplate taking the odds with an AR.

You don't "cock it" to chamber a round. You rack the slide. You can always drop the magazine and load another cartridge to top the mag back off, then reseat the mag.


That said, 4 on 1 is long odds. Not because of capacity restrictions but because of time restrictions. I've worked Homicide & Robbery as a detective or supervisor (currently a LT) for about 7 years. When you engage the first one, if his buddies don't flee you aren't going to win. Compliance is your best option for survival if they are trying to rob you, not a murder attempt.


The 'bump and carjack' or the sex crime equivalent of 'bump and rape' are decades old ploys to get a victim stopped while they are isolated. In car camera system, 911 call, and slowly driving to the nearest populated area with your emergency flashers on is best practice for staying safe.
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Old 06-10-2022, 08:13 AM   #20
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A specific flaw that gets me on the gen 5 Camaros is the fact a standard 1911 .45 won't fit in the console.
How is this related to this thread?
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Old 06-10-2022, 08:15 AM   #21
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Not in the console but they do make holsters for that. In this case if he tried anything he probably wouldn’t be able to tell the story.
Magnets near your right knee work very well.
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Old 06-10-2022, 08:19 AM   #22
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Wow this just sucks big time!! Bo, I'm glad you are alright, and hope you get your awesome, respected Camaro back intact! And yea, as stated above, our society has gone nuts and back to the wild west, pillage and plunder and take what's not yours. Again sir, glad you are alright!!
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Old 06-10-2022, 10:16 AM   #23
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Because sometimes the good guys have (and need) guns too. And sometimes they win.
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Old 06-10-2022, 10:46 AM   #24
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Because sometimes the good guys have (and need) guns too. And sometimes they win.
Bingo. I never leave the house without my 1911. 5th Gens have a few decent places to put them if you look hard enough.
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Old 06-10-2022, 11:31 AM   #25
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Bingo. I never leave the house without my 1911. 5th Gens have a few decent places to put them if you look hard enough.
In this particular case that would have most likely been a life ending scenario and not worth the car loss. 4 guys with guns that you don't initially know were bad would have surprised him first.
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While I don't know what his situation is, nothing good every comes from stopping at 4:00 AM to get gas. Or anything for that matter.
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Old 06-10-2022, 12:07 PM   #28
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In this particular case that would have most likely been a life ending scenario and not worth the car loss. 4 guys with guns that you don't initially know were bad would have surprised him first.
Ohh don’t get me wrong, I would have done the exact same thing he did. 1 on 4 is terrible odds if they are all serious. But for 1 on 1 there’s always plenty of good places to hide one.

I’m glad they found it, best possible outcome!
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