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gmen09 · 12-09-2013, 11:36 AM

A new centrifugal style supercharge built into the intake manifold, it looks like it is the same design that is in the new rumored LT4. This may be what accounts for the "shorter" style of the LT4, usually a supercharged engine will be taller than the leaked images we've seen so far.

NJBourne23 · 12-09-2013, 12:33 PM

interesting!

DarkObsession · 12-09-2013, 12:37 PM

That's a really good idea but I wonder how you'd intercool it. Maybe build that into the intake as well? Seems like a lot of hardware stuffed in there.

1LESSPROBLEM · 12-09-2013, 12:40 PM

retarded

not · 12-09-2013, 01:59 PM

Businesses apply for patents for a lot of reasons. One of the biggest reasons is to keep the competition from going forward with their ideas, make them license it from you or just stall them dead in their tracks.

Sikoriko · 12-09-2013, 02:07 PM

Looks like a bunch of hot air to me.

AGM 1LE · 12-09-2013, 02:13 PM

Thats pretty cool, hope they make it and we can see what it does performance wise

Angrybird 12 · 12-09-2013, 02:36 PM

Possibly this engine here?

Mikes SS · 12-09-2013, 03:02 PM

I have to admit I am by no means an engineer, but looking at the patent images, I woder why it would be beneficial to pull in the amient air from the bottom closest to the "hot" engine when it seems they should have inverted the compressor/vane wheel to pull from the top/forward? from all we all know with CAI's and IAT's it just would seem more logical to be appropriated this way?

Angrybird 12 · 12-09-2013, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikes SS

I have to admit I am by no means an engineer, but looking at the patent images, I woder why it would be beneficial to pull in the amient air from the bottom closest to the "hot" engine when it seems they should have inverted the compressor/vane wheel to pull from the top/forward? from all we all know with CAI's and IAT's it just would seem more logical to be appropriated this way?

I think it has more to do with making a more compact package because of new pedestrian impact safety standards require more clearance between the hood and engine. This will allow that and still keep a low hood line.

Mikes SS · 12-09-2013, 06:06 PM

yeah I get that and I would imagine it aloows for longer runners for more torque, but more timing for higher IAT's would seem to cancel all of that. 4-8 inches more on the top would eliminate all of that it seems

Angrybird 12 · 12-09-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikes SS

yeah I get that and I would imagine it aloows for longer runners for more torque, but more timing for higher IAT's would seem to cancel all of that. 4-8 inches more on the top would eliminate all of that it seems

Then wouldn't the hood need to be 4" to 8" higher too... Then you are almost right back to the standard SC height.

2010-1SS-IBM · 12-09-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I think it has more to do with making a more compact package because of new pedestrian impact safety standards require more clearance between the hood and engine. This will allow that and still keep a low hood line.

Really? How many people land on the hoods of automobiles (outside of stock market crashes)?

Angrybird 12 · 12-09-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

Really? How many people land on the hoods of automobiles (outside of stock market crashes)?

Do you realize that 11% of traffic deaths are from collisions with pedestrians? The hood crush zone is just one of the items being looked at to reduce these deaths. It's coming and automakers are looking ahead to meet them.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/pr...le-design.html

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Mikes SS Drives: '10 CGM 2SS/RS 6M Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 1,032 View My Garage	I have to admit I am by no means an engineer, but looking at the patent images, I woder why it would be beneficial to pull in the amient air from the bottom closest to the "hot" engine when it seems they should have inverted the compressor/vane wheel to pull from the top/forward? from all we all know with CAI's and IAT's it just would seem more logical to be appropriated this way?

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Mikes SS Drives: '10 CGM 2SS/RS 6M Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 1,032 View My Garage	yeah I get that and I would imagine it aloows for longer runners for more torque, but more timing for higher IAT's would seem to cancel all of that. 4-8 inches more on the top would eliminate all of that it seems