[detamble13]

Originally Posted by Evergreen6

Truthfully, I'm excited for the next Camaro, or whatever GM plans to do with the nameplate, if anything. It could be an all-electric, AWD coupe, sedan, or blob and I'm sure it could have amazing performance. This is the future, for now, and it's very bright!

Please read the bold part and explain how a blob with amazing performance is anything worth being excited about. You can make a minivan fast but it's still a minivan.

[LeonardS]

According to the Lansing Factory, “they are potentially looking at next week for the end of Camaro production”. No specific date yet.

[Evergreen6]

Originally Posted by detamble13

Please read the bold part and explain how a blob with amazing performance is anything worth being excited about. You can make a minivan fast but it's still a minivan.

Isn't it obvious that it's possible to enjoy and get excited about a wide variety of vehicles made for different purposes and from many different manufacturers?

[GreenZLE]

Chevrolet ended the Camaro they way I expected they would. The fact that they built the ZLE was nothing short of stunning to me.

[Hack]

The great thing is that GM is still a company and they may choose to make more terrific cars in the future. I hope they will be allowed to do so.

It seems like the better people understand EVs, the less they want to own one. I think there's a good chance some laws will be changed and allow a less restrictive future.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by SuperSnake1972

You all can thank Marry Barra for lackluster sales of the camaro buy not advertising and for not upgrading it's power and performance like the afore mentioned challenger and mustang. Blame it on what you will, girl cooties, girls don't like to drive big powerful cars, or they just don't understand them. Either way it's all her fault. Make me your leader and I will restore order !

These rather sexist comments clearly show you don’t know anything about her. But hey it’s the internet.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by SuperSnake1972

You all can thank Marry Barra for lackluster sales of the camaro buy not advertising and for not upgrading it's power and performance like the afore mentioned challenger and mustang. Blame it on what you will, girl cooties, girls don't like to drive big powerful cars, or they just don't understand them. Either way it's all her fault. Make me your leader and I will restore order !

Originally Posted by N Camarolina

Ford and Chevy took different design philosophies. The Mustang was designed first and foremost for DD practicality and comfort (presumably first and foremost targeting sales of GT and lower moddels). Deficiencies in performance (of which there were plenty) and reliability (plat plane crank V8) provided "opportunities" to introduce revised models and 1-off special versions with small improvements, along with the requisite body panel changes to make it look like a somewhat new offering (albeit on pretty much the same chassis since 2015).

With the G6 Camaro, GM prioritized performance form the get go and (unfortunately) at the cost of practicality. When it came time to offer improvements they could and did go more extreme (1LE offerings, ZL1 powerplant), but after that there was nowhere to go with it. Couldn't really improve performance at the price point (they were already knocking it out of the park compared to the competition) and couldn't address the DD practicality issues as would have required a totally new chassis.

I'm not sad about how things turned out, because I love my SS 1LE and use it mainly as a track car. The fact that production is stopping doesn't change how awesome my car still is, and the fact that it took Ford 6-7 years just to tie the lap times of the SS 1LE (albeit by using wider, stickier tires) shows just how good it is.

The Camaro vpchassis is the same as the Cadillac ATS/CTS. ATS coupe had a bigger trunk and more rear seat leg room than Camaro. The chassis had DD comfort and practicality. The Camaro execution off of that architecture took a different DP direction but the bones were there. Now as far as ATS/CTS sales………..

[Adios]

Quit SCREAMING!!!!!


That is not necessarily true!!!

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

Once again....


TODAY IS NOT THE LAST DAY OF PRODUCTION!

There are Camaros scheduled to be built into mid December.

Example:

[LeonardS]

Originally Posted by Adios

Quit SCREAMING!!!!!


That is not necessarily true!!!

It’s true.

[Jc9767]

Don’t blame Mary, GM killed the Camaro because of the EPA. To meet emissions requirements they are limited in V8 sales. GM chose pickups, large suvs, and Corvettes over the Camaro for those V8 allocations because they have higher profit margins.

[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by Adios

Quit SCREAMING!!!!!


That is not necessarily true!!!

It is 100% true. I just showed you proof, what have you shown?

Also, typing in large caps doesn't mean I'm screaming. Get a grip. I'm trying to make sure people see it and stop thinking that production has already ended.

[N Camarolina]

Originally Posted by Jc9767

Don’t blame Mary, GM killed the Camaro because of the EPA. To meet emissions requirements they are limited in V8 sales. GM chose pickups, large suvs, and Corvettes over the Camaro for those V8 allocations because they have higher profit margins.

See right here.

We should be blaming all the poser guys who are buying heavy, V8 powered pickup trucks when they don't need one (aren't a farmer or a construction worker who frequently need to haul lots of stuff; they just want to look cool). In effect those guys are wasting V8s. Those V8s would be better allocated into a lighter weight vehicle (Camaro, etc) where the thrust to weight ratio can provide better enjoyment.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by N Camarolina

See right here.

We should be blaming all the poser guys who are buying heavy, V8 powered pickup trucks when they don't need one (aren't a farmer or a construction worker who frequently need to haul lots of stuff; they just want to look cool). In effect those guys are wasting V8s. Those V8s would be better allocated into a lighter weight vehicle (Camaro, etc) where the thrust to weight ratio can provide better enjoyment.

You’re gonna get a lot of **** for saying that on this forum because it’s full of people with trucks who don't do truck activities.

[AZCamaroFan]

in effect the explosion of truck and suv sales in the late 90s helped kill the Camaro the last time.