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3 reasons why GM is sucking in selling the Camaro. 1. is marketing 2. is Marketing 3. is Marketing You can sell a POS if its marketed right, we see that every day with gobs of products and the Camaro is not a POS. |
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Those are commercials that made you run to your nearest Chevy dealer and scream "take my money"!! GM needs a PR staff to bring that same kind of vibe back and advertise the living hell out of the Camaro with ads like that. I can see them using some Greta Van Fleet tunes (google them if you don't know who they are) to bring the younger generation to the game. Their music fits the Camaro perfectly. |
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The other 2 problems that aren't mentioned is this model was supposed to be a "youth" targeted car.
A) Most kids do not care about V8 power (or cars other than econoboxes) B) The entry level V8 is close to 40K out the door with is out of reach for most kids. After that, you can add insurance. Thake a Honda, double the power, and the insurance co. says you still have a Honda. The average age of a Camaro buyer is 53. Mustang and Dodge are in the same demographic. |
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The general public also has no clue about the superiority of the alpha chassis so gm needs to let their rigid options/pricing go.
I still don't know why a $37K 1SS doesn't have blind spot monitoring or leather standard. You know, what a comparably priced family sedan would have, let alone sports car. Edit: As I have mentioned in another thread, LT4 vs. LT5 crate engine difference is $3k. While not a total apples to apples comparison for production's sake, it goes to show that a LT5 ZL1 doesn't need to be anywhere near $100k, let alone $80k. Imagine the buzz it would create for the Camaro . . . The fact that GM put it in the low volume C7 ZR1 and nothing else tells me that they have probably already recouped its costs and that there is margin enough for utilizaition in the Camaro. |
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Yeh..but when you drive a Honda you look like a Dork. |
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04-02-2020, 02:46 PM | #78 | |
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We can say what we want of GM management and their decisions. But strength of a company is not based on sales of a single brand, or of the Camaro in this case. It based on a lot of finance items. But Here's what i would say is a better indicator. Even with this virus stuff going, and the stock market drops, as of today: GM stock price: ~ $18 Ford stock price: ~ $4.70 FCA stock price: ~ $7 if you look at the 52 wk average before the start of this recession, GM was ~ $38, Ford ~ $9 and FCA ~ $14. GM is a stronger and better run company according to the folks who really know business. Even if they drive a BMW that you can gap. Be safe folks |
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Looks like they have all shed half of their value same as my retirement plans LOL
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The Corvette is the only performance car that GM cares about the Camaro is really just minor part of the GM plan, the platform is a good one but the car does not have the personality that the Mustang or Challenger has. The Sales show that and it could be gone if the sales for that platform don't show a return on their investment.
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Otherwise what you're saying is that tesla is 4x better and stronger of a company than GM, and well beyond in strength and being well run than all three of those car companies combined. I mean, I like what tesla is doing and hate the legally backed dealer sales model like a lot of people, but something that overwhelming would be making more of a drastic impact in everyday life everywhere and not just in large cities/affluent areas. gm's stock has more to do with the likelihood of the US government always bailing them out of any huge problem than it does with the public recognizing that they have a strong business model and a proven path to succeed in the future. That and their size (allowing them to better weather local strikes and issues) |
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And the train wreck continues to roll on. How anyone is surprised by this is amazing to say the least.
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Gotcha, I see your point on the parts bin. I disagree on pricing. Ford holds back production on the Shelby GT500 and GT350, they also limit what dealers get as far as product based on sales. This is all to drive the price up. It’s a good old sales tactic, offer a lower price to get the suckers into the dealer then tell them it’s a limited production product and this allows dealers to push pricing. You have it backwards, window sticker don’t mean sh*t if you can’t buy the car for that price.
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