ZL1 or (used) GTR?

Factorypilot · 01-05-2018, 03:19 PM

Moving on from my ‘16 SS, but I’m torn between a 2018 ZL1 or a 2014-15 GTR. Have not had a chance to drive the ZL1, but I have had the chance to drive the GTR and wow.... what a beast. Any thoughts guys? Anyone out there that has owned a GTR and can provide some insights?

Thanks in advance.

SoCal Smith · 01-05-2018, 04:06 PM

What are your goals for the car?

Factorypilot · 01-05-2018, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal Smith

What are your goals for the car?

Nothing special. Not going to the track or anything -- just an enthusiast of high performance cars is all. Neither with be a DD; I have a semi-beater for commuting. So this will be something that I'll hold on to for a little while.

FoCoCamaro · 01-05-2018, 04:13 PM

I'm actually undergoing the same dilemma.

I've wanted a Godzilla for a while but the cost of modification is rediculous. The GTR tax is real as everything costs at minimum 2-3x (if not more) to modify.

The ZL1 is nice as it is fast and comes with a full warranty for most likely less money than a lightly used GTR. Sadly, to match the GTR's stock performance will cost a lot thus making it a wash.

First world problems......

Realist · 01-05-2018, 04:53 PM

Every time I see a GTR I’m in awe of its performance capabilities but the looks (subjective) fall short. The ZL1 looks great, the PDR option and warranty would be icing on the cake. Only possible downfall I can see to buying a ZL1 now is the 19 redesign.

VAZL1 · 01-05-2018, 04:58 PM

No question for me ZL1 all the way..

Dethsupp0rt · 01-05-2018, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FoCoCamaro

Sadly, to match the GTR's stock performance will cost a lot thus making it a wash.

Other than the advantage from a dig the GT-R has thanks to AWD, the ZL1 is right there with it, and is a lot easier to live with day to day.

SLO · 01-05-2018, 05:33 PM

I was looking at the same including other vehicles....

Jeep Trackhawk - too hard to get a hold of and the damn mark up

Used GT-R - resale value is way too high around here for a used one. New was out of my price range. I think the used value will drop with another GT-R coming but too long of a wait for me. Every Asian that can get one....does. Mod prices, you already talked about that..... also brake job, no thanks on the price

Z06 - I don't want to deal with heating issues at the road course and only a 2 seater. I have 2 small kids....they can fit in the back of the ZL1 (for now).

Lexus RC-F - Good quality just not enough performance especially at Denver altitude

Hellcat - obvious straight line appeal, not much else including interior

Ended up with a ZL1 A10 - best option for all around performance, won't be the best at any one thing, but great all around performer. I actually really like the interior. It's humorous pulling up and watching people have the

look when they see an Asian step out of one.

Can'tHave2MuchHP · 01-05-2018, 05:34 PM

If you're going to modify, definitely go GTR IMO...So much more headroom with a TT based engine. The only short falling of the GTR is the somewhat weak transmission (For launching) and the turbos need to be upgraded if you want a lot of extra power.

The ZL1 is great too, not much you can take away from it. The GTR is quite ugly in my opinion, whereas the ZL1 screams American muscle.

It's a hard one, but I'd probably get the ZL1. If nothing else, the fact the GTR is made by Nissan is a killer for me, especially when comparing it to Chevy.

brantley847 · 01-05-2018, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP

If you're going to modify, definitely go GTR IMO...So much more headroom with a TT based engine. The only short falling of the GTR is the somewhat weak transmission (For launching) and the turbos need to be upgraded if you want a lot of extra power.

The ZL1 is great too, not much you can take away from it. The GTR is quite ugly in my opinion, whereas the ZL1 screams American muscle.

It's a hard one, but I'd probably get the ZL1. If nothing else, the fact the GTR is made by Nissan is a killer for me, especially when comparing it to Chevy.

Same thoughts.

The GTR was pretty good looking... a decade ago. Also with the new GT-R coming in the next few years, I have to believe you might be kicking yourself with an older used one vs a brand new, damn good looking ZL1.

I admit, I did give the same consideration as you. My primary concern was people buy a GT-R to beat the living piss out of it. Sure, ZL1 as well, but you will get yours new. There is no debate a used GT-R has been thrashed around and maintenance on that vs the ZL1 will be a bit more costly.

DenverTaco07 · 01-05-2018, 06:37 PM

if you want abadass car that drives you, GTR
If you want a badass car that you drive, ZL1

just my 2 cents

DangerZL1 · 01-05-2018, 06:52 PM

I realize the GTR is a beast, but having a new ZL1 for less money with a warranty is hard to beat.

URBAN LEGEND · 01-05-2018, 07:08 PM

Used GT-R? No thanks. You have an idea how it was driven...
New GT-R I could mess with. Nissan dealers are a bunch of... Nevermind.

SoCal Smith · 01-05-2018, 07:12 PM

I wasn't in the exact same boat as you. But, I had my heart set on a 2018 M3 and on a whim I drove the 2018 ZL1.... I really enjoyed the ZL1 over the M3. The driving experience was amazing, the tech was leaps and bounds beyond the M3. That is why the ZL1 is in the garage!!

I really think it's all on the test drive.

01-05-2018, 03:19 PM	#1
Factorypilot Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 355	ZL1 or (used) GTR? Moving on from my ‘16 SS, but I’m torn between a 2018 ZL1 or a 2014-15 GTR. Have not had a chance to drive the ZL1, but I have had the chance to drive the GTR and wow.... what a beast. Any thoughts guys? Anyone out there that has owned a GTR and can provide some insights? Thanks in advance.

01-05-2018, 04:58 PM	#6
VAZL1 Drives: 17 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: VA Posts: 1,075	No question for me ZL1 all the way.. __________________ 2017 ZL1 Coupe M6, Red Hot Mods; AFE Pro 5R CAI, Kong Ported Blower and Snout, NW 103 TB, Griptech 2.31 Upper, Kooks 2",JMS Voltage Booster, Flex Fuel, Mighty Mouse CC,Jannetty Racing Tune, 680 rwhp

01-05-2018, 05:33 PM	#8
SLO Drives: Slo'ly Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Denver Posts: 138	I was looking at the same including other vehicles.... Jeep Trackhawk - too hard to get a hold of and the damn mark up Used GT-R - resale value is way too high around here for a used one. New was out of my price range. I think the used value will drop with another GT-R coming but too long of a wait for me. Every Asian that can get one....does. Mod prices, you already talked about that..... also brake job, no thanks on the price Z06 - I don't want to deal with heating issues at the road course and only a 2 seater. I have 2 small kids....they can fit in the back of the ZL1 (for now). Lexus RC-F - Good quality just not enough performance especially at Denver altitude Hellcat - obvious straight line appeal, not much else including interior Ended up with a ZL1 A10 - best option for all around performance, won't be the best at any one thing, but great all around performer. I actually really like the interior. It's humorous pulling up and watching people have the look when they see an Asian step out of one. __________________ My 7 year old playing pool against Shane VanBoening GyroCam with GoPro4 setup on track

01-05-2018, 06:37 PM	#11
DenverTaco07 Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2017 Volt, 2013 Pilot Join Date: May 2014 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,274	if you want abadass car that drives you, GTR If you want a badass car that you drive, ZL1 just my 2 cents __________________ 2017 SS 1LE \| HBM \| Vortech V3-Si supercharger (620RWHP and 575ft lbs) \| PDR \| Black Bowties \| Illuminated Front Black Bowtie \| Illuminated Door Sills \| Smoked Tails \| vented seats mod

01-05-2018, 07:08 PM	#13
URBAN LEGEND Drives: 20 X3M CP & 19 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Brenham, TX Posts: 3,517	Used GT-R? No thanks. You have an idea how it was driven... New GT-R I could mess with. Nissan dealers are a bunch of... Nevermind. __________________ 🔺22 RS E TRON GT 🔺21 Model S Plaid

01-05-2018, 04:06 PM	#2
SoCal Smith Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: SoCal Posts: 313 View My Garage	What are your goals for the car?

01-05-2018, 04:13 PM	#4
FoCoCamaro Drives: 2017 1SS 1LE (Krypton Green) Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 143	I'm actually undergoing the same dilemma. I've wanted a Godzilla for a while but the cost of modification is rediculous. The GTR tax is real as everything costs at minimum 2-3x (if not more) to modify. The ZL1 is nice as it is fast and comes with a full warranty for most likely less money than a lightly used GTR. Sadly, to match the GTR's stock performance will cost a lot thus making it a wash. First world problems......

01-05-2018, 04:53 PM	#5
Realist Drives: No Camaro :( Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Chitown Burbs Posts: 1,136	Every time I see a GTR I’m in awe of its performance capabilities but the looks (subjective) fall short. The ZL1 looks great, the PDR option and warranty would be icing on the cake. Only possible downfall I can see to buying a ZL1 now is the 19 redesign.

01-05-2018, 05:34 PM	#9
Can'tHave2MuchHP Drives: Fast Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,696	If you're going to modify, definitely go GTR IMO...So much more headroom with a TT based engine. The only short falling of the GTR is the somewhat weak transmission (For launching) and the turbos need to be upgraded if you want a lot of extra power. The ZL1 is great too, not much you can take away from it. The GTR is quite ugly in my opinion, whereas the ZL1 screams American muscle. It's a hard one, but I'd probably get the ZL1. If nothing else, the fact the GTR is made by Nissan is a killer for me, especially when comparing it to Chevy.

01-05-2018, 06:52 PM	#12
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	I realize the GTR is a beast, but having a new ZL1 for less money with a warranty is hard to beat.

01-05-2018, 07:12 PM	#14
SoCal Smith Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: SoCal Posts: 313 View My Garage	I wasn't in the exact same boat as you. But, I had my heart set on a 2018 M3 and on a whim I drove the 2018 ZL1.... I really enjoyed the ZL1 over the M3. The driving experience was amazing, the tech was leaps and bounds beyond the M3. That is why the ZL1 is in the garage!! I really think it's all on the test drive.

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