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Old 01-04-2018, 05:24 PM   #29
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You're good to go.

The A10 has a larger TC and l/u clutch.

The early ones with overfill was a human error fluke.

Entire 2019 Camaro line gets the A10.

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I was hoping the entire Camaro line would get the 10 speed in the 19 refresh. It's just what the SS needs to battle the 18 GT with the same 10 speed. Lets hope chevy gives it a drag mode like Ford and allows no torque management between shifts.
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Old 01-04-2018, 05:27 PM   #30
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One of the things that contributes to the A8 problems with the torque converter is the slippage programmed in to reduce vibrations from AFM. Thankfully the ZL1 doesnt use it so I’d guess that would improve reliability. The A8 has steered me away from purchasing a C7.
The C7 needs to get rid of AFM entirely, for the transmission sake and the engine. So should Camaro
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:32 PM   #31
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One of the things that contributes to the A8 problems with the torque converter is the slippage programmed in to reduce vibrations from AFM. Thankfully the ZL1 doesnt use it so I’d guess that would improve reliability. The A8 has steered me away from purchasing a C7.
Actually, it does.

Larger converter and clutch, maybe combined with less slip seem to be working.

But it slips for the same reason as the A8.

That's definitely the A8's issue, and I have been watching the A10 reliability closely, knowing the A10 has the same slip technique as the A8.

So far, so good.

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The torque converter is 260mm in diameter and features a lock-up clutch. It also uses electronic controlled capacity clutch (ECCC) technology,

which employs a small, regulated amount of slip to dampen out engine pulses for a smoother running drivetrain, especially during shifting.

http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/h...0speed-gm.html
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Old 01-05-2018, 06:09 AM   #32
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Great A10 transmission. Too bad that the C7 Corvette never got their crappy A8 transmission upgraded.
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Old 01-05-2018, 09:01 AM   #33
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Actually, it does.

Larger converter and clutch, maybe combined with less slip seem to be working.

But it slips for the same reason as the A8.

That's definitely the A8's issue, and I have been watching the A10 reliability closely, knowing the A10 has the same slip technique as the A8.

So far, so good.
I was under the impression that AFM caused the vibrations which required the use of programmed slippage in the TC to reduce them. According to Al O. the ZL1 doesn’t use AFM, but you are correct that the A10 does use TC slippage. Thanks for posting the link! GM and Ford did a good job on the A10 and maybe the TC is a much more HD unit.
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Old 01-05-2018, 10:37 AM   #34
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Great A10 transmission. Too bad that the C7 Corvette never got their crappy A8 transmission upgraded.
Exact reason I have a ZL1 right now and not a Z06.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:29 PM   #35
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I'm in a 2018 A10 and have been tracking the car hard. I had one issue with over temping back in the heat of summer at Sebring. GM sent down some techs from the factory and found nothing wrong. They did a flush and a refil with some new fluid and it has worked perfectly .The A10 is totally bad ass and you won't be disapointed!!
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:34 PM   #36
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Great A10 transmission. Too bad that the C7 Corvette never got their crappy A8 transmission upgraded.
They wanted to but the A10 won't fit in correctly :(
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Old 01-05-2018, 01:08 PM   #37
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They wanted to but the A10 won't fit in correctly :(
just bang out the tunnel, it will fit!
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Old 01-05-2018, 06:52 PM   #38
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I'm with you brother. Probably getting a 19 1LE myself and if it had an A10 I'd never buy another Camaro.
HA!!

Not likely amigo...when GM drops the LT5 into a (drool) A10 / ZL1 1LE, I'll bet anyone a cold beer you get one of the first 10 off the assembly line.
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Old 01-05-2018, 07:27 PM   #39
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HA!!

Not likely amigo...when GM drops the LT5 into a (drool) A10 / ZL1 1LE, I'll bet anyone a cold beer you get one of the first 10 off the assembly line.
LOL... I knew I'd get called out on that one.
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Old 01-05-2018, 09:00 PM   #40
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One of the things that contributes to the A8 problems with the torque converter is the slippage programmed in to reduce vibrations from AFM. Thankfully the ZL1 doesnt use it so I’d guess that would improve reliability. The A8 has steered me away from purchasing a C7.
Yes. Perhaps no afm does contribute to less slippage / wear.

Also, the A8 TC clutch disc gets burnt and worn, which causes the famous shudder, even during afm transitions.

All 2019's get the A10. They'll have afm (other than ZL1)

Also interesting is the new AFM Deluxe - Delphi Dynamic Skip Fire

Supposed to make afm much less intrusive, and increase mpg.

Debuting soon - maybe 2019 models.

What a shame the front-engine Corvette will end with the A8.

Sales of Camaro and Corvette, and more profitable trucks, are being impacted more as owners report about the A8's never-ending troubles.

Bad decision GM - you know those things were shuddering their brains out during testing. Just ship them!

Read a ZR1 Corvette review the other day - guess what? The A8 was malfunctioning. Too bad A10 won't fit.

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Old 01-05-2018, 09:43 PM   #41
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Read a ZR1 Corvette review the other day - guess what? The A8 was malfunctioning. Too bad A10 won't fit.

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