[1967Z28]

I've got the first '67 Z-28 off the production line. Would love to own a 6th-gen Z-28 if they decide to make it. Maybe they will hold out for the 50th anniversary?

I'm really impressed with the new car. Great job, Chevrolet!

[94turbolsx]

Fwiw, the Z/28 was never meant to sell well at all. It was/is a hardcore car pointed to very select audience and the Camaro team had no shame saying exactly that. I really hope if they do a Z/28 again they build upon the current car and not turn it into a supercharged loaded car. If the latter is the case, retire the name again. Using the LS7 was a alot of the cost in the current car. Hot rod a na LT1 and I think a cheaper Z/28 could be had, that could still run circles around a gt350r.

[ULTRAZLS1]

I know for a fact they have at least tested an lt4 in an alpha camaro. Not sure if it will be produced or many other details etc. but my cousin was talking about it over a year ago ( engineer at GM)

[Mikes SS]

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

I agree. The Z2/8 was an experiment. While it succeeded in the magazines, it ultimately failed miserably in sales. I don't think GM will repeat that mistake. It was more of a concept car than anything else.

I don't think we will see a 1LE, either. The base SS already outperforms the Gen 5 1LE, and let's not forget the Gen 5 1LE already outperforms the current gen Mustang. IMO both the Z2/8 and 1LE will be done away with.

I anxiously await the ZL1.

The Z 2/8 failed miserably in sales because of the price tag!! Only a few could justify spending 75k for a toy CAMARO.

[Kahdir]

Really disappointed with the LT1 #s (in both the C7 and the Camaro SS). Was hoping for a similar leapfrog the 5th gen did to the S197 (424 to 305).
Expected the LT1 to be closer to the 476 of the LS3 with GM Perf. cam. It's time to offer a NA 500hp at the crank Camaro to go toe to toe with the GT350.

[rmyers]

Why would GM not install the same motor being used in the ATS-V for the Z/28? Its a twin turbo V6 and actually fits quite nicely in the historic theme of the 1st generation Z/28. That leaves the some variant of the LT4 for use in the ZL1.

If the Z/28 was a failure in sales figures, the failure was overestimating how many customers would buy one, but lets hope that GM does NOT stop pushing the bar. By all accounts it is an amazing performance car, competing with brands and models that it should not be.

So I think both Z's can exist. GM definitely has the platform and motors in place today to make it happen. The question is will there be enough of a market to support both? I think so. Thats one benefit of having components and platforms that can be shared across brands and models.

We already know the base car is 200lb lighter. How much lighter could the Z/28 be? Look at what the 5th gen Z/28 accomplished with the LS7. Older technology accomplishing great track times through brute force and some technical wizardry going on under the sheet metal. I personally hope the performance group at GM has some more surprises in store.

Worst case scenario, perhaps we will see 0% financing on the Z/28 If that hasn't already happened.

Ron

[ilirg]

I think your on to something. I could totally see a hotter version of the TT v6 with 550 HP going into a z/28, and give the zl1 the beast lt4. Makes sense at least to me.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by rmyers

Why would GM not install the same motor being used in the ATS-V for the Z/28? Its a twin turbo V6 and actually fits quite nicely in the historic theme of the 1st generation Z/28. That leaves the some variant of the LT4 for use in the ZL1.

How does a twin turbo V6 fit the history of a high winding small block built specifically to meet the requirements of Trans Am racing?

The LF4 and the LT1 are pretty even. The LF4 makes a little more horsepower but the LT1 makes a little more torque. I wouldn't be surprised if they are pretty close in weight too.

[Denis]

I mean unless GM is working on a secret engine no one knows about, you can bet on the LT4 to be in the hi-po model(s).

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Kahdir

Really disappointed with the LT1 #s (in both the C7 and the Camaro SS). Was hoping for a similar leapfrog the 5th gen did to the S197 (424 to 305).
Expected the LT1 to be closer to the 476 of the LS3 with GM Perf. cam. It's time to offer a NA 500hp at the crank Camaro to go toe to toe with the GT350.

Why do you discount the fact there is already a 505 HP Camaro?

[Raven87]

Originally Posted by 94turbolsx

Fwiw, the Z/28 was never meant to sell well at all. It was/is a hardcore car pointed to very select audience and the Camaro team had no shame saying exactly that. I really hope if they do a Z/28 again they build upon the current car and not turn it into a supercharged loaded car. If the latter is the case, retire the name again. Using the LS7 was a alot of the cost in the current car. Hot rod a na LT1 and I think a cheaper Z/28 could be had, that could still run circles around a gt350r.

I definitely agree.

IF GM builds another Z/28 I am sure it will not be an LT4 car, it will be a higher HP version of the LT1 in a lower weight Gen 6 body.

If/when GM builds the ZL1, I am betting it WILL be an LT4-derivative but maybe a little less HP than the Z06.

[Jeb114]

I am tired of people stating the Z/28 we don't get it. "WE GET IT" the problem with GM is there is over 600 cars 14-15 still unsold. The last time they made the GT500 they sold them all. Get it.

[Raven87]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

I am tired of people stating the Z/28 we don't get it. "WE GET IT" the problem with GM is there is over 600 cars 14-15 still unsold. The last time they made the GT500 they sold them all. Get it.

If the Z/28 had a base price equivalent to the GT500, it would probably have sold out too. $75K+ is really stupid marketing.

Even if they had come in at $69K (and the GT500 was still less than that!) it would have helped but when you have dealers who took the $75k and were even ADDING a 'Market Adjustment' to it, it sent potential buyers to other platforms.

Classic GM - shooting itself in the foot, time and again.

[ChocoTaco369]

Originally Posted by Mikes SS

The Z 2/8 failed miserably in sales because of the price tag!! Only a few could justify spending 75k for a toy CAMARO.

I don't think it was the price tag. It was the impracticality of the car that was the problem IMO. No radio, no heated power/seats, tires that can't be driven in the smallest amount of rain...it was the biggest stripper car made in ages. People want luxuries. The $75,000 price isn't an issue, but people aren't going to buy a $75,000 car with no power seat and air conditioning (yea, you can add the A/C option, I know, but COME ON). It's a car that can't really be driven practically. The Z2/8 was an idea. It should've never been fully executed.

Why there were actually Z2/8's produced for dealer orders is beyond me. The Z2/8 should've been manufactured for customer orders, only. I guess it's all money to GM and if a dealer wanted to order one for the showroom floor that's their problem, but IMO making it a production car that sits outside on dealer lots is laughable.

Maybe they'll make a 1LE, but I cannot imagine another Z2/8. Not in anything that resembles the Gen 5, anyway. The Z2/8 could've been cheaper than the ZL1 and I don't think it would've sold. No normal person would want to drive that thing on the street. I honestly think it's a hunk of junk and I'd rather drive a 1SS on the streets any day. Especially with the ticking timebomb LS7 in it. Those motors are junk, period.