Lingenfelter vs. Hennessey

[OrlandoSS]

I would opt for the chrome option as well as the LPE hood with the see through window to show it off. Im gonna call later today or tomorrow and talk with someone there and get a more concrete price with the xtras so i can toy with the numbers and decide if im gonna pull the trigger. Im also gonna call the people at florida speed and power and see what they have to offer as well. Like people have mentioned already in this thread, it would be nice to have the build shop somewhat in my back yard in case of any catastrophic failures. shipping it there and that glorious drive back to orlando from indiana after completion wouldnt be bad at all.... but would get old if i had issues....

[E.T.]

Honestly, I wouldn't do either. Both are way overpriced, IMO. You're paying for a name. Call up the guys at Livernois Motorsports. They'll get you the same power for a lot less $$$. They'll also come and pick up your car in an enclosed trailer.

[Andy@Livernois]

Originally Posted by E.T.

Honestly, I wouldn't do either. Both are way overpriced, IMO. You're paying for a name. Call up the guys at Livernois Motorsports. They'll get you the same power for a lot less $$$. They'll also come and pick up your car in an enclosed trailer.

Thanks for the recommendation!

We definitely pride ourselves on being a huge value, while offering more capabilities than anyone else in the industry!

Of course we would be please if the OP would take a look at what we have to offer!

[cmracing]

I was watching the car shows on Spike TV one morning, PowerNation Engine Power I believe is the name of the show. They showed a dual turbo installation on a new Camaro. Was pretty straightforward, a long weekend with a buddy helping you, or a good local shop can do it. I think the kits was about $8000, plus your time, or paying someone else to install it. I would guess $1200 or so for a good place for the install would be close. If I had the money to blow I would have that kit here today. Have too many cars and race cars to spend that kind of coin on my 2014 right now.

I bought an engine from Lingenfelter back before John died, that was quite some time ago. Anyway, that engine was great, never an issue, almost sold it for as much as I paid for it after running it for 6 years or so.

[OrlandoSS]

Originally Posted by cmracing

I was watching the car shows on Spike TV one morning, PowerNation Engine Power I believe is the name of the show. They showed a dual turbo installation on a new Camaro. Was pretty straightforward, a long weekend with a buddy helping you, or a good local shop can do it. I think the kits was about $8000, plus your time, or paying someone else to install it. I would guess $1200 or so for a good place for the install would be close. If I had the money to blow I would have that kit here today. Have too many cars and race cars to spend that kind of coin on my 2014 right now.

I bought an engine from Lingenfelter back before John died, that was quite some time ago. Anyway, that engine was great, never an issue, almost sold it for as much as I paid for it after running it for 6 years or so.

well thats encouraging, and a testament to their level of quality. also i am fully aware that there are cheaper options but im afraid of the old adage "u get what u pay for" not trying to take away from lesser known companies. i am also aware that there are many shops that have the wherewithal to achieve the level of performance and drive-ability i am looking for. that being said im not afraid to explore other options ..... in the end, i don't want to be along side the road, smoke billowing from a hole in my hood due to a piston that decided to launch itself into the next county, saying to myself, i shoulda, woulda, coulda, but didnt... does that make any sense?

[flyer08]

Have ligenfelter heads and no issue with them. Great customer service. But I'd just go out and get the things you want and do no custom build.

[Firefighter]

How mechanically inclined are you? The aftermarket is full of bolt on kits. Either S/C in roots or centrifugal form and then high and low twin turbo set ups.

Hell stab in your own cam and do a DOD delete with the turbo and save a fortune...

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[OrlandoSS]

Originally Posted by Firefighter

How mechanically inclined are you? The aftermarket is full of bolt on kits. Either S/C in roots or centrifugal form and then high and low twin turbo set ups.

Hell stab in your own cam and do a DOD delete with the turbo and save a fortune...

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not inclined enough to trust myself with something like this. nor do i have the tools to do so... wish i did,

[Firefighter]

I would either call FSP or Jeremy Formato. FSP has a good reputation around here and Formato has a huge presence on LS1tech with a great rep too, he is an incredible tuner and has a nice little shop.

I know that if I was unable to do my own work I would bring it to Jeremy.

Jeremy did my tune and I've been to his place before he's more than capable of making you 800 HP with either a Maggie or a TT set up...

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[JCunningham]

the warranty's are junk. They cost allot, they have a low total pay out, you have to pay one of there certificated installers or a GM dealer, and there pay out is broken up into components. They give you like 5k to replace your motor. 1500 for your trany 1500 for your rear end. A total pay out of like 8k for $2300. Plus you have to pay one of there installers to do the repairs. I believe its a reimbursement too. So pay full price then wait for us to send you a check.

[CamaroCracka]

Originally Posted by OrlandoSS

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well thats encouraging, and a testament to their level of quality. also i am fully aware that there are cheaper options but im afraid of the old adage "u get what u pay for" not trying to take away from lesser known companies. i am also aware that there are many shops that have the wherewithal to achieve the level of performance and drive-ability i am looking for. that being said im not afraid to explore other options ..... in the end, i don't want to be along side the road, smoke billowing from a hole in my hood due to a piston that decided to launch itself into the next county, saying to myself, i shoulda, woulda, coulda, but didnt... does that make any sense?

I get what your saying, but seems like for that price delta you could blow the motor and buy another.

However, you have to have faith in your build. I do nearly all my own stuff, but there is frequently doubt in my mind about a cut a corner, lacking documentation or the "correct" tool. After I get a some miles on it, that all goes away, but in the short term every little noise requires analysis.

Reality is that I'm confident I do just as good or better work than 90% of the shops out there because it's mine and I'm not losing money if I have to do something over because it's not quite perfect. When I do take it to a local mechanic for something I lack tools or time on, I am almost always disappointed with the quality of their work, so yes, having confidence in the guy that puts your stuff together is worth a lot.

It's almost like the making sausage cliché; we might be better off if we did not see the process.

[Youngone]

Orlando... I have an L99 with an ECS kit.. I made 551 whp and 634.4 crank. Everything, I mean everything else is stock, cam and some minor upgrades as I was talking to the guys that built mine, I could have had 700+ wheel for under 11-12k... You're soending double that... Look into thins before going big name, it looks good, but you also get over charged.

[ravensjeff]

It's real easy getting alot of power; remember the Sparkomatic 200 watt speakers? Junk. A simple Kenwood 80 watt amp would blow them up. I know several Camaro owners who installed (only) a supercharger, loved their 700 HP at 16 lbs of boost, only to: 1) fry their engine and 2) destroy their rear end. Good luck with all of those 1/2 ass builds if you are going to drive the car hard. Won't last.
Don't get me wrong; there are many excellent shops who can do the build the OP is looking for. Absolute peace of mind just sent me to LPE. Best thing you can do is to pick, say 5 or so top shops that you could live with to do your build. Then provide each with the exact same build list and get quotes (and delivery estimate times) and go from there.

As far as what happens when issues arise: I had a CEL come on, car ran rough. Codes checked by friend. LPE did not think it was a major issue, or they would have sent someone to me or come get the car and fix it for a catastrophic failure. They sent me to Tony's Corvette shop. What a great place to find. Anyway, problem ended up being a Competition Cams valve spring broke. I was told it was rare and that they are good springs that shouldn't have broken. LPE shipped a whole new set of their LPE brand better quality double springs. I went down to pick the car up the day it was done. LPE didn't even have time to pay them yet, but the shop said that was absolutely no problem and gave me the car without them even receiving a dime yet.

I paid nothing and found a local shop that I could trust doing work on my car when the warranty expired (Mine expired Nov '14). Such repair practices may be standard with top builders; I'm not sure. But I was very impressed. The customer service I received from Tim @ LPE was absolutely fantastic. And I'm sure alot of their other customers spent alot more on their rides then I did, but they NEVER made me feel like that.

[Youngone]

Originally Posted by ravensjeff

It's real easy getting alot of power; remember the Sparkomatic 200 watt speakers? Junk. A simple Kenwood 80 watt amp would blow them up. I know several Camaro owners who installed (only) a supercharger, loved their 700 HP at 16 lbs of boost, only to: 1) fry their engine and 2) destroy their rear end. Good luck with all of those 1/2 ass builds if you are going to drive the car hard. Won't last.
Don't get me wrong; there are many excellent shops who can do the build the OP is looking for. Absolute peace of mind just sent me to LPE. Best thing you can do is to pick, say 5 or so top shops that you could live with to do your build. Then provide each with the exact same build list and get quotes (and delivery estimate times) and go from there.

As far as what happens when issues arise: I had a CEL come on, car ran rough. Codes checked by friend. LPE did not think it was a major issue, or they would have sent someone to me or come get the car and fix it for a catastrophic failure. They sent me to Tony's Corvette shop. What a great place to find. Anyway, problem ended up being a Competition Cams valve spring broke. I was told it was rare and that they are good springs that shouldn't have broken. LPE shipped a whole new set of their LPE brand better quality double springs. I went down to pick the car up the day it was done. LPE didn't even have time to pay them yet, but the shop said that was absolutely no problem and gave me the car without them even receiving a dime yet.

I paid nothing and found a local shop that I could trust doing work on my car when the warranty expired (Mine expired Nov '14). Such repair practices may be standard with top builders; I'm not sure. But I was very impressed. The customer service I received from Tim @ LPE was absolutely fantastic. And I'm sure alot of their other customers spent alot more on their rides then I did, but they NEVER made me feel like that.

To what you first said. I'm running 8lbs of boost paid a third of what yall paid, I gained gas mileage, and still putting to the wheels what yall do. Edit: not trying to start anything, just saying.