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Old 01-17-2015, 03:24 PM   #15
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I agree. You want your pump system done by "Good Enough Performance" or do you want it done the best for your application? Same with porting or tuning or assembly.
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Old 01-17-2015, 03:44 PM   #16
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I run a BAP on a stock pump and have never had any issues. (Knock on wood)
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:39 AM   #17
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I know people say don't cheap out on a fuel set up but I just don't want to drop a ton of cash. I've already have 300 in the ZL1 pump.
Was yours tuned for the ZL1 pump? It doesn't do much without changing the tables. I'll be at the limits of my ZL1 setup shortly after my heads/cam swap, and am thinking of either the ADM twins or something similar, I'm not sure I need the full blast Squash type setup.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:40 AM   #18
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Don't cheap out on a fuel system.
Most have no problem spending $6000-$8000 on a forced induction setup(supercharger or turbo setup).But is afraid to spend $1000-$3000 on a fuel system & injectors to feed the engine correctly.
Once the engine runs out of fuel,you'll have to spend $5000-$10000 on a new engine,plus you'll be forced to upgrade the fuel system anyway after or risk to break it again.
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:18 AM   #19
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Is what it is.BTW 300 is to much for a zl1 pump

$229 here http://lsaconversion.com/collections...-zl1-fuel-pump
Picked mine up at the dealership.
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:04 AM   #20
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I just saw that Lonnies makes a drop in dual system thats plug and play like the Livernois dual. It seems that Lonnies and Livernois drop right where as Lingenfelter and Adm have additional wiring and something with the fpcm. Maybe someone can explain the differences.
Here is the problem:

You cant run a CTSV TWIN PUMP(We all are using) on factory CAMARO SS Fuel pump control module safely. The Factory Camaro SS Fuel pump control module was designed and engineered to run 1 pump.

The reason LPE and ADM use new wiring and "CTSV FUEL PUMP CONTROL MODULE" is that we understand that it was designed to do the job "RIGHT".

Just because you buy a TWIN PUMP from a vendor that says it plug and play does not make it right.......

At ADM we have a quote that we do business by every day - "Is it good enough,the customer will decide"

Feel free to spend money with ADM Performance,we might have just saved you a very big headache in the future.

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I would definitely love to see some testing that shows this. The interesting thing about the FPFCM in the CTS-V is it was never designed for twin pumps. The reason that the Camaro and the the CTS-V differ in FPFCM's is that one is Global-A architecture, and one is the older serial-CAN system that GM used throughout the 2000's. The CTS-V FPFCM was actually first used on trucks. Of course, a 5.3L Silverado did not have a dual fuel pump, so GM did exactly what our system does, uses a single FPFCM designed for one pump to control two pumps.

We have been selling our dual pump system since 2009, and even have customers nearing the 100,000 mile mark on them with absolutely zero failures of the FPFCM or the pumps themselves. We have used them in anything from a 600rwhp car, all the way to 1000rwhp (with a BAP fitted to assist). We even have customers using E85 (although, it's not rated for it) and have been using them for years.

We are an OEM supplier, and do quite a lot of product development and engineering in our facility for the OEM's. We just have taken them time to figure out the balance between what's needed, and what's not. We are never ones do do anything halfway, but we also make certain we aren't selling people components they do not need either. We always try to spend our customer's money like it's our own: Wisely.
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Old 01-20-2015, 10:57 PM   #21
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Sounds great Andy, my pump just got here yesterday looks like a great piece. Looking forward to seeing what he can do with my AGP TwinTurbo kit and 1000cc injectors. As soon as all my parts to get here, I'll be installing them and let you know how it works, thanks
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Old 01-21-2015, 05:46 AM   #22
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Is what it is.BTW 300 is to much for a zl1 pump

$229 here http://lsaconversion.com/collections...-zl1-fuel-pump
Do you need the ADM module with this fuel pump to support 700 RWHP
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Old 01-21-2015, 01:43 PM   #23
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Can I just take and run two ZL1 fuel pumps and just tap them together.
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Old 01-21-2015, 01:56 PM   #24
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The pump comes with the bucket and there is not room, nor plumbing for two pumps in there. If you want dual pumps you need an aftermarket setup.

I engineer a lot of stuff because I'm unwilling to pay for aftermarket pieces, but there are several reasons I would not try engineering my own dual ZL1 pump rig.
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:06 PM   #25
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Can I just take and run two ZL1 fuel pumps and just tap them together.
I think it may have been missed.

The ZL-1 pump by itself is no better than the stock pump on back to back testing.

Add the ADM fuel pump control module, With tuning, and you can easily support 650 RWHP on a LS3

Add an MSD voltage booster to both the ZL-1 pump and ADM controller, it will support 700 RWHP LS3.

Hope this helps.

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Old 01-23-2015, 10:46 AM   #26
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There's no way around it, dual fuel pumps is best way for over 700rwhp. Fore makes an awesome kit. But you need to reach into your pockets and remove a couple grand. I was in the same delimma, I just sucked it up and spent the 3 grand on everything. Now I'm all set to 1300rwhp.
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Old 01-23-2015, 10:49 AM   #27
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There's no way around it, dual fuel pumps is best way for over 700rwhp. Fore makes an awesome kit. But you need to reach into your pockets and remove a couple grand. I was in the same delimma, I just sucked it up and spent the 3 grand on everything. Now I'm all set to 1300rwhp.

Congrats did you consider Squash, we are really happy with the quality fit finish and pricing.

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Old 01-24-2015, 03:59 PM   #28
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Agree Squash system is working extremely well!

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Congrats did you consider Squash, we are really happy with the quality fit finish and pricing.

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