[Q'smuscle]

Originally Posted by fradaj

My guess is New York. I hope they have got it right. They now have the Hellcat, GT350 and GT350R to beat. My main concern is that they get the styling right, I don't really need 500HP, a 350HP V6 would be fine for me.

My concern also!

[Q'smuscle]

Originally Posted by Denis

the issue there is the HP number is what everyone and their mother is talking about right now. "OMG the Hellcat has 700!" "the new GT has 600!" The Camaro needs to be competitive at the show to really get peoples attention. yes the looks are important, and I agree with that 100%. but if they bring a car to the show that looks good but only makes 350hp, they'll get laughed off the turn table.

True ! But what GT has 600hp?

[Bonemaro]

absolutely zero chance

[Q'smuscle]

Originally Posted by Demon 1LE

they won't outdue the vette. so the SS will get 450 max. respectable, but i'd like to see a 1le version with a HP bump that can compete with the GT350.

Yea, but if the 6th Gen is lighter than the 5th Gen , 450HP would be enough! Since the new 15 mustang's is almost. As heavy as the 5th Gen!

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Overflow

Ford didnt dominate Detroit? Then who did?

Out of all the stuff revealed at Detroit, Ford definitely won.

No IMO opinion they didn't "dominate". As I said they showed a bunch of stuff way out. Cool stuff and probably the GT is best in show also IMO. But from a technology standpoint GM wins (Volt/Bolt) from a freshness standpoint GM did pretty well (Buick). So I agree that Ford did well and probably best, but to say dominate is headline embellishment. Again IMO

Originally Posted by fradaj

I think we may see a 500HP LT1 in the C6 Camaro.

Not unless the Corvette gets there too. As I've said, I hope the Z/28 has hope for a 500 hp LTx but GM isn't going to just bust our another 40 hp in the LT1. As usual I don't mind being wrong, but I don't see it for the SS or the Corvette.

Originally Posted by Red Chief

I'd love it if they did the same thing as the 5th gen and upped the horsepower to 400 for the v6 and 500 for the v8.

No way in Cheboygan they get 400 HP out of any NA V6. That's a pipe dream. The LF3 TT is only making 430. As for 500 read above. Nice thought but very unlikely to happen with launch. Down the road? Maybe with some of the cylinder deactivation technology just discussed in the press.

Originally Posted by Demon 1LE

they won't outdue the vette. so the SS will get 450 max. respectable, but i'd like to see a 1le version with a HP bump that can compete with the GT350.

Both have to go. I don't see the Camaro SS having a better V8 than the base Corvette.

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

The 6Gen debut, or actually be for sale?

Hence the use of the word "unveiled"

Originally Posted by Q'smuscle

True ! But what GT has 600hp?

That would be the "GT". Announced with a TT v6 at 600 hp. Almost 2017 though, so way out.

[2cnd chance]

[/QUOTE]Hence the use of the word "unveiled" [/QUOTE]


So they'll be building 5Gens through the end of 2015?

I agree the Ford GT was the main event. It defiantly pulled attention away from the NSX.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Number 3

No IMO opinion they didn't "dominate". As I said they showed a bunch of stuff way out. Cool stuff and probably the GT is best in show also IMO. But from a technology standpoint GM wins (Volt/Bolt) from a freshness standpoint GM did pretty well (Buick). So I agree that Ford did well and probably best, but to say dominate is headline embellishment. Again IMO

Not unless the Corvette gets there too. As I've said, I hope the Z/28 has hope for a 500 hp LTx but GM isn't going to just bust our another 40 hp in the LT1. As usual I don't mind being wrong, but I don't see it for the SS or the Corvette.

Both have to go. I don't see the Camaro SS having a better V8 than the base Corvette.

I disagree with you about the show. Ford revealed some impressive cars, whether they will be built for a while or not, while Chevy revealed a Volt, lame, and a concept. The cars Chevy may, or may not, have to compete won't be revealed any time soon. They are years away at best.

There is no reason why the SS Camaro shouldn't be able to have a more powerful V8 than the Corvette. We all know the LT1 makes 455 hp so the Camaro will most likely have 450. We know it, Ford knows it, Dodge knows it, and anyone else who cares to pay attention knows it. Do you honestly think Ford is not planning on pumping the Coyote up to surpass it?

Why should the Camaro be hindered by a car it will never come close to surpassing when the Mustang has no such limit?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Mister Will

This is definitely something to consider.

However, the 2010 was a re-introduction of a retired name plate, or a brand new platform. GM knew they couldn't just stick a Camaro badge on a restyled Malibu body and frame and call it a Camaro. The 6th Gen will not be new, but a redesign of a car that is already in production. I think the time between reveal and production will be shorter.

Just my 2 cents.

By the time of the reveal, most of the engineering and design should be finished. Reveal to production is usually 4-6 months based on what I could find.

If the Camaro was going to hit dealer lots late summer or fall, it should have been revealed by now. I'm betting it isn't available until next year.

[Q'smuscle]

Originally Posted by Number 3

No IMO opinion they didn't "dominate". As I said they showed a bunch of stuff way out. Cool stuff and probably the GT is best in show also IMO. But from a technology standpoint GM wins (Volt/Bolt) from a freshness standpoint GM did pretty well (Buick). So I agree that Ford did well and probably best, but to say dominate is headline embellishment. Again IMO



Not unless the Corvette gets there too. As I've said, I hope the Z/28 has hope for a 500 hp LTx but GM isn't going to just bust our another 40 hp in the LT1. As usual I don't mind being wrong, but I don't see it for the SS or the Corvette.



No way in Cheboygan they get 400 HP out of any NA V6. That's a pipe dream. The LF3 TT is only making 430. As for 500 read above. Nice thought but very unlikely to happen with launch. Down the road? Maybe with some of the cylinder deactivation technology just discussed in the press.



Both have to go. I don't see the Camaro SS having a better V8 than the base Corvette.



Hence the use of the word "unveiled"



That would be the "GT". Announced with a TT v6 at 600 hp. Almost 2017 though, so way out.

Oh , ok! Thanx!

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

By the time of the reveal, most of the engineering and design should be finished. Reveal to production is usually 4-6 months based on what I could find.

If the Camaro was going to hit dealer lots late summer or fall, it should have been revealed by now. I'm betting it isn't available until next year.

That's my guess.

[DenverTaco07]

GT looks like doo doo.

Acura NSX looks insane!

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by Mister Will

This is definitely something to consider.

However, the 2010 was a re-introduction of a retired name plate, or a brand new platform. GM knew they couldn't just stick a Camaro badge on a restyled Malibu body and frame and call it a Camaro. The 6th Gen will not be new, but a redesign of a car that is already in production. I think the time between reveal and production will be shorter.

Just my 2 cents.

It was "new" again, as you say, but not on a new platform. They took the Zeta chassis from the GTO and updated it and that's what the Camaro got. At least I think that's right lol.

Originally Posted by Q'smuscle

True ! But what GT has 600hp?

The Ford GT....its not a Mustang. Its a true supercar.

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

By the time of the reveal, most of the engineering and design should be finished. Reveal to production is usually 4-6 months based on what I could find.

If the Camaro was going to hit dealer lots late summer or fall, it should have been revealed by now. I'm betting it isn't available until next year.

Sadly, I get the feeling we won't see the car hit lots until late 2015 or early 2016 either, but damn I hope I'm wrong.

[Mister Will]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

It was "new" again, as you say, but not on a new platform. They took the Zeta chassis from the GTO and updated it and that's what the Camaro got. At least I think that's right lol.

I am aware that the Camaro was built on the Zeta platform. But unlike the GTO which simply changed some body panels from the Holden Monaro, the Camaro had a completely new body, and interior. It was its own car.

For a general question. If GM said they would deliver a 6th Gen in 2016 why wouldn't they?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Mister Will

I am aware that the Camaro was built on the Zeta platform. But unlike the GTO which simply changed some body panels from the Holden Monaro, the Camaro had a completely new body, and interior. It was its own car.

For a general question. If GM said they would deliver a 6th Gen in 2016 why wouldn't they?

As far as I know, they never said they were delivering the car in 2016. They said it would be a 2016 model year.