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No way would I do that (unless I'm trying to get away from a problem). Its up to you, though.
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08-15-2019, 09:46 AM | #16 |
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I feel your thoughts I have a 2014 6Spd with all the fun mods, Ported blower, JTR cam, 2.55 upper big lower, headers, injectors, 5inch intake, interchiller and thought wow the ZL1 1LE really looks nice.
Unfortunately it would be starting over to get to the same hp level. So cost of car plus mods. I even looked (well still thinking about) at the Redeye Hellcats. The problem there is they are very hard for the user to mod. limited Hptuners, flaky trans issues etc etc. There too is would be a 20-30k jump between the current car and the Redeye and a down round in HP. Also thought about putting the down payment into just a Texas speed 417 lsa long block and going big. Who knows decisions, decisions. For me unless fiscally forced to, I don't want to go down in HP, performance envelop or capacity to upgrade. F up, not F down |
08-15-2019, 11:20 AM | #17 |
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The 2019 SS 1LE has the mag ride and ediff like the 6th gen ZL1, so the suspension will be comparable if not a little better than my 5th gen ZL1. That's another point which makes the decision difficult.
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08-15-2019, 11:42 AM | #18 | |
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What did you have done to your '18 SS that it had near 600 crank hp?
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08-15-2019, 02:02 PM | #20 |
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The only progression from a ZL1 is to another ZL1. Once you're used to ZL1 stuff nothing lower will compare. My recommendation is to search for a used 6th Gen ZL1 and trade up to that. Performance wise the 6th Gen SS 1LE is side by side with the 5th Gen ZL1 if not faster. But there is more to these cars than performance. However it is a newer car vs an older one so that does factor in it a bit. It really depends on what you want. Again, after having a ZL1, I doubt I could ever go back to a SS even if the 7th Gen SS (if it does come out) performs just as good. Owning a ZL1 just puts you on a different level.
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08-15-2019, 09:29 PM | #21 |
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Also think hard about this: If I bought a 5th gen new, why the heck would I trade it for a used 6th gen? I get the plus/minuses: Lighter, quicker. Bear in mind there is a definite difference in feel and experience in a new car versus a used car. You almost can't compare the two in terms of overall experience.
Think long and hard before you act; You may find that the actual owner experience may not be what its cracked up to be. This isn't a slight on the 6th generation. I feel that they're excellent camaros. I just say that if you are gonna buy one buy it right....make it hurt and buy it brand new!
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I really appreciate everyone's comments.... I didn't think I would get so many helpful opinions. I agree one of hardest parts of this is going from a ZL1 to an SS even though its a 1LE and newer. I think I'm going to hold off and just keep my 5th gen ZL1, and be happy. If a 6th gen ZL1 comes around for the right price, I may jump on that. Thanks again guys!
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08-16-2019, 10:42 AM | #24 |
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The 5th gen ZL1 is a cornerstone chevrolet; Its so good that I wouldn't concede anything with it. There will always be faster, but the combination of speed, power, beauty, technical advancements are incredible with the 5th gen. Yes, if I were starting from zero I would definitely go with a 6th gen but the 5th gen should be enough car for many.
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08-16-2019, 11:24 AM | #26 |
Sounds like you already made up your mind but just my 2 cents....
I have a 2013 ZL1 and my girlfriend has a 2019 SS 1LE. My ZL1 is faster in a straight line, but we haven't really had a chance to compare them in corners. While I may be slightly bias, the ZL1 just feels more special. Her 1LE is still plenty quick and tons of fun but there is just something about the ZL1 that makes it more special. One thing I don't like about the 6th gens is how much smaller they are inside. I am not a big guy or anything and I am sure I would get use to it but I prefer my Z's interior because it is more roomy and comfortable imo. Unless you just love the look of the 6th gen, I don't really see a reason move to the SS 1LE. As others have said if it was a 6th gen ZL1 it would be a different story but while there is nothing wrong with the SS 1LE, it just isn't a Z. If you're getting a little bored of the Z, just throw some mods on it and you'll fall in love all over again! |
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The other reason I contemplated selling my ZL1 for the 1LE is it would be a brand new car that only I drove. I purchased my 13' ZL1 pre-owned and I must say the previous owner did not know how to wash the car correctly. I have since corrected the paint defects to nearly 95% perfect, but being an engineer I'm very anal, and even the smallest flaw drives me nuts, lol.
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