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47AJV8 · 04-27-2014, 07:41 PM

So as always I have come back to start my planning and get your guys input. There is possibly a brand new SS in the cards, and I am interested in a naturally aspirated, stock cubes build. So here is the parts list for just the engine mods so far:

Custom dyno tuning of course!

CNC Ported Cylinder Heads - Suggestions please! I do not know where to go for a reasonably priced, but still good port job! I am willing to shell out, but don't want to overspend for crazy flow I won't be able to take advantage of!

Custom Grind Cam, as aggressive as possible before noticeable lope - Have no idea whom to go with, as it seems there are many good options! (And up rated valve springs of course)

CAI - Cold Air Inductions or Vararam seem to be top picks!

MagnaFlow 2.5" Catback Exhaust, preferably with quad tips

1-7/8" Headers, high flow cats, American racing headers or Kooks!

BBK 95mm Throttle Body, not sure how much of a difference this will make, but any little bit adds up.

Thank you for having a look and I look forward to your guys input on the build! And if anyone has a similar build feel free to throw out BHP / TQ number estimations

rberns · 04-27-2014, 07:59 PM

American Racing Headers or Kooks for long tubes.

Vararam, Rotofab, or Cold Air Inductions for an intake system

Jeff_SS · 04-27-2014, 08:01 PM

These are what I got and recommend.
Ordered all from Apex. Fast shipping. Best customer service.
Kooks 1 7/8" long tube headers
http://www.apex-speed.com/kooks-cama...6.2l-6511.html
High flow cats
http://www.apex-speed.com/kooks-cama...6513-oemc.html
CAI intake
http://www.apex-speed.com/cold-air-i...ck-finish.html

Synner · 04-27-2014, 08:10 PM

There's much better CNC'd heads out there. You don't see a lot of them in use because their ports are fairly large and lower velocity than they should be. Plus you'd need to send them off to get milled separately for a compression boost so aside from the resale value of your stock heads its not really a deal.

axis · 04-27-2014, 09:06 PM

what is the purpose of this possible build?

47AJV8 · 04-28-2014, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rberns

American Racing Headers or Kooks for long tubes.

Vararam, Rotofab, or Cold Air Inductions for an intake system

Cool, thank you very much I shall add those to my list!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_SS

These are what I got and recommend.
Ordered all from Apex. Fast shipping. Best customer service.
Kooks 1 7/8" long tube headers
http://www.apex-speed.com/kooks-cama...6.2l-6511.html
High flow cats
http://www.apex-speed.com/kooks-cama...6513-oemc.html
CAI intake
http://www.apex-speed.com/cold-air-i...ck-finish.html

Thank you for the suggestion, and the links! The Kooks headers seem like good value!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synner

There's much better CNC'd heads out there. You don't see a lot of them in use because their ports are fairly large and lower velocity than they should be. Plus you'd need to send them off to get milled separately for a compression boost so aside from the resale value of your stock heads its not really a deal.

That would make a lot of sense then, whose ported heads would you suggest? I'm not looking for anything insane, just more flow to take advantage of the cam and other mods

Quote:

Originally Posted by axis

what is the purpose of this possible build?

Good power, NA, street, daily derivable in the summer, eat up some M3s, you know

The reason I am not going FI is because I really want to uh... Keep my license! :P When the power gets too high suddenly I find myself 20 over all the time, on a good day! I figure keeping the power more reasonable, and having a nice NA build would be a good change. And if later I want more, well I'll just grab an FI cam and see how twin turbos feel

2012InfernoSS · 04-28-2014, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nbrigdan

Cool, thank you very much I shall add those to my list!

Thank you for the suggestion, and the links! The Kooks headers seem like good value!

That would make a lot of sense then, whose ported heads would you suggest? I'm not looking for anything insane, just more flow to take advantage of the cam and other mods

Good power, NA, street, daily derivable in the summer, eat up some M3s, you know

The reason I am not going FI is because I really want to uh... Keep my license! :P When the power gets too high suddenly I find myself 20 over all the time, on a good day! I figure keeping the power more reasonable, and having a nice NA build would be a good change. And if later I want more, well I'll just grab an FI cam and see how twin turbos feel

There it is in bold print, might as well just save yourself the trouble and go that route now since its already on your mind

Mydivorcegift · 04-28-2014, 09:47 AM

Why don't you buy the car first?

Just sayin...,

woodside783 · 04-28-2014, 10:21 AM

You can go 20 over with out fi

47AJV8 · 04-28-2014, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012InfernoSS

There it is in bold print, might as well just save yourself the trouble and go that route now since its already on your mind

Thing is I just really, really want to have an N/A build under my belt. Honestly have never done a proper one, it's always just been things leading up to FI, and I do need to keep the speed and power down, well because you cannot have one without the other if you're me...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

Why don't you buy the car first?

Just sayin...,

Well seeing as I've already done a '10, '11 and have a '13 in the works I have discovered that planning the build ahead of time saves a ton of time, and money. So I would actually highly suggest this method of pre-planning to anyone who is going to build a modified car! I can lend even lend a hand :P

Sales @ CAI Inc · 04-28-2014, 10:34 AM

Good luck with your build! Please let us know if you have any questions regarding our CAI, which by the way thank you very much for considering it as part of your build! Good luck!

Synner · 04-28-2014, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nbrigdan

That would make a lot of sense then, whose ported heads would you suggest? I'm not looking for anything insane, just more flow to take advantage of the cam and other mods

Honestly for your goals I would say keep your money or do gears if you want a daily driver for fun. But if you just want to spend money then WCCH, Darin Morgan, Texas Speed...

LSX Camaro · 04-28-2014, 10:01 PM

WCCH West Coast Cylinder Heads stage 2

Pat G. Custom cam

ADM cold air intake

Kooks headers and exhaust

BTR valve train components

04-27-2014, 07:41 PM	#1
47AJV8 Drives: A White Car Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 342	Brand New SS in the Cards, Looking For Opinions on this N/A build! So as always I have come back to start my planning and get your guys input. There is possibly a brand new SS in the cards, and I am interested in a naturally aspirated, stock cubes build. So here is the parts list for just the engine mods so far: Custom dyno tuning of course! CNC Ported Cylinder Heads - Suggestions please! I do not know where to go for a reasonably priced, but still good port job! I am willing to shell out, but don't want to overspend for crazy flow I won't be able to take advantage of! Custom Grind Cam, as aggressive as possible before noticeable lope - Have no idea whom to go with, as it seems there are many good options! (And up rated valve springs of course) CAI - Cold Air Inductions or Vararam seem to be top picks! MagnaFlow 2.5" Catback Exhaust, preferably with quad tips 1-7/8" Headers, high flow cats, American racing headers or Kooks! BBK 95mm Throttle Body, not sure how much of a difference this will make, but any little bit adds up. Thank you for having a look and I look forward to your guys input on the build! And if anyone has a similar build feel free to throw out BHP / TQ number estimations __________________ "From ABS shudder that came on surprisingly early in the lousy brake pedal's travel to a looser rear end than Kim Kardashian" Last edited by 47AJV8; 04-28-2014 at 12:11 AM.

04-27-2014, 07:59 PM	#2
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	American Racing Headers or Kooks for long tubes. Vararam, Rotofab, or Cold Air Inductions for an intake system __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

04-27-2014, 08:01 PM	#3
Jeff_SS "Cam Only" Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,709 View My Garage	These are what I got and recommend. Ordered all from Apex. Fast shipping. Best customer service. Kooks 1 7/8" long tube headers http://www.apex-speed.com/kooks-cama...6.2l-6511.html High flow cats http://www.apex-speed.com/kooks-cama...6513-oemc.html CAI intake http://www.apex-speed.com/cold-air-i...ck-finish.html __________________ 2013 AGM Camaro 2SS/RS M6 \| LSA Blower, 2.5" pulley, 10% lower, FIC1000's, Fore Innovations Twin Pump fuel system w/ Flex Fuel, CMS Custom Grind Cam, Kooks 1 7/8" headers w/ catless off-road pipes, NPP Exhaust, 3.91's, JLT ZL1 Intake, Prospeed Heat Exchanger \| Pfadt Suspension, 1LE Sway Bars \| DSS 1000hp axles \| Tuned by Ryne @ CMS E85: 734rwhp/636rwtq (mustang dyno)

04-27-2014, 09:06 PM	#5
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04-28-2014, 09:47 AM	#8
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04-27-2014, 08:10 PM	#4
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	There's much better CNC'd heads out there. You don't see a lot of them in use because their ports are fairly large and lower velocity than they should be. Plus you'd need to send them off to get milled separately for a compression boost so aside from the resale value of your stock heads its not really a deal.

04-28-2014, 10:21 AM	#9
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04-28-2014, 10:34 AM	#11
Sales @ CAI Inc Drives: 2010 SS/RS Supercharged 427 Build Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,504	Good luck with your build! Please let us know if you have any questions regarding our CAI, which by the way thank you very much for considering it as part of your build! Good luck!

04-28-2014, 10:01 PM	#13
LSX Camaro Master ASE, GM, LSX Tech. Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,034	WCCH West Coast Cylinder Heads stage 2 Pat G. Custom cam ADM cold air intake Kooks headers and exhaust BTR valve train components __________________ 2010 2SSRS A6, Custom Pat G. Cam, WCCH Cylinder Heads, Kooks Headers/Exhaust, BTR Valvetrain, Fluidampr 25% UDP, All Engine ARP bolts, Flex-a-lite radiator/Trans cooler, Yank converter, PFADT Suspension, ADM Race Intake/Scoop, Torq tow hook, CFD auto shifter, Dynojet AFR gauge, Aeroforce scan gauge, Brake Performance rotors/pads Prothane bushings, ZL1 wheels, spoiler, Z/28 wickerbill, 1LE Aero/Suspension Package, Anderson Composites COPO Carbon Fiber Hood, LED lighting, Elite Catch Can, Improved Racing oil pan baffle, crank scraper, windage tray 480 RWHP 452 RWTQ + Nitrous Express 150 Shot