11-28-2009, 10:04 AM | #127 | |
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Your dead on accurate regarding driving a stick and I would not want to drive one daily, not now, not with 43 year old knees that bear the affect of years of sports abuse. I use mine as a weekend car and its a blast to drive but I typically avoid most traffic and hit a lot of country roads. That said the level of control and enguagement in the Auto vs the Manual cannot be compared, not in my experience. I think if a guy is really on the fence buy the stick drive it for a month or whatever GM's return is and if it doesn't work for them pick up the Auto.
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11-28-2009, 10:27 AM | #128 | |
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I find that I am more engaged in tap shift mode than I have been in any stick shift driving experience in over 25 years! I'm sure that, like driving a stick shift, driving the tap shift will become more automatic with time. I guess what I really like about having it is how many options it gives me to have the L99. First, I can drive in "D." Then, I can choose "M," which raises the shift points for a more aggressive driving experience while still auto-shifting. Then I can choose "M" with tap shift and have a lot of fun that way. Finally, I can remote start. I didn't think this would be as cool a feature as I have found it to be...but it really is! I usually park a good ways away from my destination when at work. I really like that I can leave my building, start the car from nearly 200' away, and by the time I walk up to it, she's warmed up a bit and ready to go. I feel I'll be taking better care of the engine/transmission by not driving for a min or so after starting her up (especially in cold weather). Oh, and I also like that I can set the heated seats to start up with remote start if I want (haven't needed it yet, but it's another cool feature I wouldn't have otherwise). So on balance, for me, the L99 is simply a greater personal value and a much more engaging "driver" experience. There just isn't as much that is special about up-shifting and down-shifting with a clutch anymore (don't get me wrong--I used to love it). But it got old fast in heavy traffic and replacing two clutches over the years was expensive. Now, twisty roads are just as much fun for me as they ever were--more, I'd say when tap-shifting. And everything else is more enjoyable. Again, just my two cents...(oh...and let me know if I fail again -- LOL). Enjoy those L99's ya'll. And don't hate me cuz' I can remote start
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11-28-2009, 10:40 AM | #129 |
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Some people like the fun and feel of driving a stick. You will get used to driving it and you will get good at it. No doubt!
I have driven both stick and automatic. They each have their virtues. Personally, I like an automatic. I don't have my Camaro yet, but I think I will have loads of fun driving my L99 and I can play with the paddle shifters for more excitement if I need it. It's all a personal choice, but if you think a stick will be fun, then get it. I am sure you will be very good at it in no time. |
11-28-2009, 01:38 PM | #130 | |
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Tapshift seems more like a gimmic to me but then again I didn't try it out as I wasn't in it that long:( Its an awesome car for sure.
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05-25-2019, 11:10 PM | #131 |
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Wow, not one vote for the auto. I didn't like it either. So I LS3'd the motor and cammed it. BIG CAM. Cam job is not complete without a stall converter, at least 3600. RARELY do I get out of the slower than a manual. re are very few stick strokers that can launch the car properly, especially as the power levels go up. And as far as the next comment that will be made about drivetrain loss, the stall converter will have a lockup init that will basically make the drivetrain just as effective as the manual. Or for a few extra bucks, get a 4000 stall with a double lockup that will make your drivetrain loss less than a manual. Roll races are are a breeze. top end, more effective. In fact, the only time mu=y car is in "torque converter" mode is when I am comfortable driving through town in stop and go traffic. When I step on it, everything happens for me faster than a human can react. Both hands on the wheel to hold the torque down. 175 shot engages when those cars that actually have power are near me, only for a second though. What do you think John Force would do if you asked him if he wishes his car was a stick? Oh, you mean he has a stall converter that only makes one shift. I laugh all day in town with those guys slamming gears like a trackstar just to get from one light to the other.
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05-25-2019, 11:41 PM | #132 |
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Sounds like you need to get the auto.
Several years ago, I sold cars. I sold a brand new 350z to a kid much like you during a snow storm. He had never driven a stick before. He immdiately drove it from Dallas to Houston. With the snow and heavy traffic, the clutch made it about halfway. Brand new car and clutch was gone in less than 200 miles. |
05-26-2019, 01:36 AM | #133 |
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^^^^Bullshit^^^^. 200 Miles?
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05-26-2019, 07:36 AM | #134 |
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Go to the dealer and ask them to take you out in a manual car. I'm sure if you are buying a car from them they would be glad to show you how to drive it. If you want manual, GET A MANUAL! aka Standard shift< called that because its standard equipment on most cars.
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05-26-2019, 07:45 AM | #135 |
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Don’t forget that automatics have about 800 more parts that can break and fail (not exactly but a LOT more to accomplish what the driver’s left leg and right arm does in a manual). That’s another reason I personally drive a manual......significantly reduced chance of difficult to diagnose failures. Both mechanical and now electronic failures with all the dct and computer involvement.
Manuals may also weigh less. The fewer automatics and turbos in my garage the better. Manuals keep it simple (plus fun)! My .02 |
05-26-2019, 08:10 AM | #136 |
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This thread was started in 2009 so hopefully the original poster has already decided long ago...
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05-26-2019, 08:13 AM | #137 |
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Holy 10 year old thread resurrection. The debate continues...change the fluid and filter and your auto trans and drive it...a LONG time.
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05-26-2019, 08:15 AM | #138 |
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This thread is 10 years old as mentioned...the v6 vs v8 and manual vs auto threads are timeless....here's the proof haha.
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05-26-2019, 08:24 AM | #139 | |
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05-26-2019, 08:46 AM | #140 |
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Haha too funny! Somebody revived it last night around midnight. I just saw it posted at the top a few times and jumped in....never even looked at the prior old dates.
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