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*Mr. Wyndham* · 02-14-2007, 02:42 PM

4200?
That's kinda scary... The Impala SS is only 3790
The Camaro's supposed to be smaller than it right?

Casull · 02-14-2007, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

4200?
That's kinda scary... The Impala SS is only 3790
The Camaro's supposed to be smaller than it right?

I sure hope so.... if it comes in at 4200 lbs then it will have a hard time competing with the Challenger...

Plus with what I have been reading over at CZ28.com from the FBodFather, they are very much aware of the weight issue and are making every effort to keep it to a minimum. i don't think thy are going to pull of a car with those dimenisions at 3500 lbs, but i don't think that bring it in at 3900 would be to far fetched.

EDIT: Here is the link to the CZ28.com message board where there was a discussion on the weight of the car for those that do not frequent that site.

*KILLER74Z28* · 02-14-2007, 03:09 PM

Did we forget about this:

Mr. Lutz and his wife spent nearly the entire Charity Preview in the Chevy Exhibit........

Doug Houlihan (Chief Engineer) flew in from "down under" for industry days and also Charity Preview -- and a few meetings..... He has a message for the enthusiast community: "Tell them not to be concerned with weight - we've called Jenny Craig!!!".........

Casull · 02-14-2007, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER74Z28

Did we forget about this:

Mr. Lutz and his wife spent nearly the entire Charity Preview in the Chevy Exhibit........

Doug Houlihan (Chief Engineer) flew in from "down under" for industry days and also Charity Preview -- and a few meetings..... He has a message for the enthusiast community: "Tell them not to be concerned with weight - we've called Jenny Craig!!!".........

Lol, yeah that is what that link I referenced was about... That quote still cracks me up though... I love Mr. Houlihan's tact...

LSxcellent · 02-15-2007, 04:09 PM

Some other points of interest...

2006 GTO weighs 3725lbs (3725lbs/400hp =9.31lbs/hp)
2006 Ford Mustang GT 3613lbs (3613lbs/300hp = 12.04lbs/hp)

If the 2008 Camaro wants to compete, they'd better keep it below 3800lbs! If its over 4000lbs they are in trouble!

~LSx

Casull · 02-15-2007, 07:55 PM

I'd say if they can bring 'er in at or around the 3600 lb mark we will have ourselves a pretty amazing car!

Scotsman · 02-16-2007, 12:13 AM

All I can do is laugh when I read "weight", reality dictates this car is going to be a bit of a porker, but that will be the last thing on your mind when you're waving farewell to your salesman as you leave the dealer in your brand new 5thgen foot fully depressed on accelerator.

LSxcellent · 07-23-2008, 12:14 PM

Since I started this thread, I was curious to see how close my original estimates were, and interested in comparing them to other vehicles...

Original Estimated length: 186.2 in. - (from Edmunds.com)

Actual Length = 190.4 (+4.2)

Original Estimated height: 53.0 in.- (from Edmunds.com)

Actual Height = 54.2 (+1.2)

Original Estimated width: 79.6 in.- (from Edmunds.com)

Actual Width = 75.5 (-4.1)

Original Estimated wheel base: 110.5 in.- (from Edmunds.com)

Actual Wheelbase = 112.3 (+1.8)

Curb weight 1690–1825 kg (3726–4023 lb) (Only for Holden Commodore so far)

Actual Curb Weight = 3750lb to 3860lb

This means we have a weight/power ratio of:

3750/300 = 12.5lb/hp
3860/422 = 9.14lb/hp

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And here are the #'s for some of our competitors and similarly sized cars:

BMW 335i:

Length × Width × Height in: 178.2 × 71.5 × 55.9
300hp
Curb Weight 3616lb
3616/300 = 12.05lb/hp

BMW M6:

Length × Width × Height in: 191.8 × 80.4 × 54 (closest in overal dimensions)
Curb Weight 3909lbs
500hp
3909/500 = 7.81lb/hp!

Dodge Challenger SRT8

Length × Width × Height in: 197.8 × 75.7 × 57
Wheelbase (inches): 116.0
Front track (inches): 63.0
Rear track (inches): 63.1
Curb Weight 4140lbs

4140/425 = 9.74lb/hp

Ford Mustang GT

Length × Width × Height in: 187.6 × 74 (79.3(incl. mirrors)) × 55.4
Curb Weight 3540lbs
300hp

3540/300=11.8lb/hp

Nissan 350Z

Length × Width × Height in: 169.8 × 71.5 × 52.1
Curb Weight 3327
306hp

3327/306 = 10.87lb/hp

Overall we look pretty good, though bigger in almost every dimension, we ended up a little lighter than expected!

Power/Weight looks good to, being better than everyone but the exotic germans, and most importantly we are WAY ahead of the Mustang/Challenger competitors!

Rock On.

~LSx

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-23-2008, 12:41 PM

Thanks for this! I was thinking about putting one up, but couldn't find the time, or the info! Good Job!

02-14-2007, 02:42 PM	#15
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	4200? That's kinda scary... The Impala SS is only 3790 The Camaro's supposed to be smaller than it right? __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

07-23-2008, 12:14 PM	#22
LSxcellent Drives: MINI Cooper S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 284	Thread Revival for Dimension References Since I started this thread, I was curious to see how close my original estimates were, and interested in comparing them to other vehicles... Original Estimated length: 186.2 in. - (from Edmunds.com) Actual Length = 190.4 (+4.2) Original Estimated height: 53.0 in.- (from Edmunds.com) Actual Height = 54.2 (+1.2) Original Estimated width: 79.6 in.- (from Edmunds.com) Actual Width = 75.5 (-4.1) Original Estimated wheel base: 110.5 in.- (from Edmunds.com) Actual Wheelbase = 112.3 (+1.8) Curb weight 1690–1825 kg (3726–4023 lb) (Only for Holden Commodore so far) Actual Curb Weight = 3750lb to 3860lb This means we have a weight/power ratio of: 3750/300 = 12.5lb/hp 3860/422 = 9.14lb/hp -------------------------------------------------------------------------- And here are the #'s for some of our competitors and similarly sized cars: BMW 335i: Length × Width × Height in: 178.2 × 71.5 × 55.9 300hp Curb Weight 3616lb 3616/300 = 12.05lb/hp BMW M6: Length × Width × Height in: 191.8 × 80.4 × 54 (closest in overal dimensions) Curb Weight 3909lbs 500hp 3909/500 = 7.81lb/hp! Dodge Challenger SRT8 Length × Width × Height in: 197.8 × 75.7 × 57 Wheelbase (inches): 116.0 Front track (inches): 63.0 Rear track (inches): 63.1 Curb Weight 4140lbs 4140/425 = 9.74lb/hp Ford Mustang GT Length × Width × Height in: 187.6 × 74 (79.3(incl. mirrors)) × 55.4 Curb Weight 3540lbs 300hp 3540/300=11.8lb/hp Nissan 350Z Length × Width × Height in: 169.8 × 71.5 × 52.1 Curb Weight 3327 306hp 3327/306 = 10.87lb/hp Overall we look pretty good, though bigger in almost every dimension, we ended up a little lighter than expected! Power/Weight looks good to, being better than everyone but the exotic germans, and most importantly we are WAY ahead of the Mustang/Challenger competitors! Rock On. ~LSx __________________ "When you turn your car on, does it return the favor?"

07-23-2008, 12:41 PM	#23
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	Thanks for this! I was thinking about putting one up, but couldn't find the time, or the info! Good Job! __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

02-14-2007, 03:09 PM	#17
KILLER74Z28 MOD SQUAD Drives: 2G1FT1EW9A9100666 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: West Michigan Posts: 5,782 View My Garage	Did we forget about this: Mr. Lutz and his wife spent nearly the entire Charity Preview in the Chevy Exhibit........ Doug Houlihan (Chief Engineer) flew in from "down under" for industry days and also Charity Preview -- and a few meetings..... He has a message for the enthusiast community: "Tell them not to be concerned with weight - we've called Jenny Craig!!!".........

02-15-2007, 04:09 PM	#19
LSxcellent Drives: MINI Cooper S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 284	Some other points of interest... 2006 GTO weighs 3725lbs (3725lbs/400hp =9.31lbs/hp) 2006 Ford Mustang GT 3613lbs (3613lbs/300hp = 12.04lbs/hp) If the 2008 Camaro wants to compete, they'd better keep it below 3800lbs! If its over 4000lbs they are in trouble! ~LSx

02-15-2007, 07:55 PM	#20
Casull Drives: Chevy Silverado Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 754	I'd say if they can bring 'er in at or around the 3600 lb mark we will have ourselves a pretty amazing car!

02-16-2007, 12:13 AM	#21
Scotsman Auto Pilot Drives: Gunmetal Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: L.A. Posts: 1,307	All I can do is laugh when I read "weight", reality dictates this car is going to be a bit of a porker, but that will be the last thing on your mind when you're waving farewell to your salesman as you leave the dealer in your brand new 5thgen foot fully depressed on accelerator.