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Old 05-07-2015, 06:58 AM   #85
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now thats a beautiful Mustang.

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Old 05-07-2015, 07:00 AM   #86
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i'm nearly banned from the mustang forum for some reason lol

truth about their beloved s197's oxcart suspension hurts lol..dangerous cars those..best avoided at all costs..
my compnay van would beat one round a race track lol
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Old 05-07-2015, 09:41 AM   #87
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Lol someone smack some sense into me quick...

I have been flirting with the idea for a couple of days now no decision will be made until I see the finished product on the 16th. But the 2015 has grown on me and I haven't owned a Camaro for 3 years so my patience is wearing thin.

sounds like your balls fell off.
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Old 05-07-2015, 09:58 AM   #88
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Lol someone smack some sense into me quick...

I have been flirting with the idea for a couple of days now no decision will be made until I see the finished product on the 16th. But the 2015 has grown on me and I haven't owned a Camaro for 3 years so my patience is wearing thin.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:31 AM   #89
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How can ANYONE seriously say that isn't a good looking car? Especially if you are a Camaro fan. They have so much in common. It is logically impossible to think a Camaro looks awesome but this looks hideous. It's a great looking car.

Maybe you like the Camaro's looks better. I do. But if you think a Camaro looks great and this doesn't at least look "good" you're a nut-swinging liar!!
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:11 AM   #90
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How can ANYONE seriously say that isn't a good looking car? Especially if you are a Camaro fan. They have so much in common. It is logically impossible to think a Camaro looks awesome but this looks hideous. It's a great looking car.

Maybe you like the Camaro's looks better. I do. But if you think a Camaro looks great and this doesn't at least look "good" you're a nut-swinging liar!!
Yes, they're both two-door 2+2's so they'll share a somewhat similar profile. The nose of the '15 is an absolute failure. Ford took any and all toughness out of it. Out back is where I really have an issue with the new Mustangs. The lower edge along the rocker extends way too back so that the decklid is considerably shorter than the lower edge of the fascia. By extending the lines of tail further back it also creates a taillight panel that looks "squished" or too narrow. The Camaro and previous-gen Mustang have/had a much more muscular bobbed tail.

I do prefer GM cars but I don't hate Ford or Dodge by any stretch so I'm not just bashing for its own sake. I did shop the '10-14 Mustangs before buying my Camaro. In my opinion, they took that design and stretched it in all the wrong directions.

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Old 05-07-2015, 12:27 PM   #91
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Old 05-07-2015, 09:59 PM   #92
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How can ANYONE seriously say that isn't a good looking car? Especially if you are a Camaro fan. They have so much in common. It is logically impossible to think a Camaro looks awesome but this looks hideous. It's a great looking car.

Maybe you like the Camaro's looks better. I do. But if you think a Camaro looks great and this doesn't at least look "good" you're a nut-swinging liar!!
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:43 AM   #93
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By friends sons is in the shop more than it's on the road, oh and they did not purchase the service warranty so no rental cars for them while this 16xx mile 5.0 is in the shop.

Get yourself a low mile ZL1.
This!^^^ The last 2 work vans I had were Fords and they literally spent more time in the shop than on the road. The only good thing was that they were leased company vans and the leasing company paid for the rentals, so I got try out almost everything that Enterprise had to offer. I noticed that Ford is ranked 25th out of 31 brands sold in the U.S. on reliability, in the latest J.D. Powers survey. This tells me that they still haven't gotten their act together on reliability and vehicles these days are just too expensive to buy a brand that has such a bad record on reliability.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:08 AM   #94
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Says the guy driving around in the V6 Camaro as well

Please explain to me how the convertible is considered a bandwagon, last time i looked the LS camaros outnumber all other models combined, now THAT to me screams bandwagon...
I wasn't the one commenting was I? Oh and BTW, I don't have that car anymore so I'm on another bandwagon. Brilliant!
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:18 PM   #95
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I like ALL cars but if I had the $$$ I would get a 15 Ecoboost Mustang coupe in the dark red with black interior I saw one at the dealer and i was like (drool).
tell me you seriously wouldn't buy a twin turbo 4 banger muscle car
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:21 PM   #96
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piece of crap ford..ok it's new but wont be new for long.
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:36 PM   #97
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I like ALL cars but if I had the $$$ I would get a 15 Ecoboost Mustang coupe in the dark red with black interior I saw one at the dealer and i was like (drool).
I had the 3.6L Ecoboost in my Explorer... great when you are moving and spin it up... but if you are sitting and hammer it, every so often, there was a major bog down in the engine, just sit and wait... horrible!
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:48 PM   #98
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not pretty at all...the 2014 was way better looking..
but the 2014 is a joke car with that rear end lump of steel
If the mustang is a piece of crap what does that make the Camaro?
In almost every way it's superior... Looks is objective, so it can't be measured

But it gets better gas mileage
It's faster in a straight line (both v6 and v8)
More engine options at the moment
It's got more horsepower per liter
Ford didn't need to be saved by the gov't like chevy
Ford sells more than the chevy name brand (though this isn't true when you lump together all GM sales compared to ford & lincoln)
It's never been discontinued like the Camaro
Price is very similar

If it handles any worse, it's not saying much for the Camaro without added suspension/steering componets like the 1LE, because our cars handle like shit. So if handling is something a potential buyer wants, both the Camaro and Mustang are off the table without aftermarket parts or upgrading to a special version like the 1LE.
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