Skip-shift eliminator carry over?

Techn9cian805 · 12-09-2015, 10:33 AM

now... I don't know much about the mechanical aspect of cars, and I'm not gonna pretend I do, but I have been driving "spiritedly" since I was about 12-13 (IROC-Z FTW!!!!) and was a bit upset when I found out the skip shift crap is going to be part of the gen6.. upset, but not surprised. that skip shift crap makes it a pain when trying to drive relaxed but still control when I shift.

so my question is this: does the skip-shift eliminator thing used on the gen5 compatible with the gen6? I don't want to have to wait a long time for a new one to come out.

SkipNWis · 12-09-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Techn9cian805

now...
so my question is this: does the skip-shift eliminator thing used on the gen5 compatible with the gen6? I don't want to have to wait a long time for a new one to come out.

What he said

hognutz · 12-09-2015, 01:47 PM

honestly I never hit it in my zl1. all you have to do is rev over like 2500 rpms in first gear you will never hit.

I bought the cable but I never installed it. It is really driving style related the only way it ever activates is if you are really grandma driving the car. you adjust you driving style pull 3k in first gear it will never ever activate.

I think they are still using the 6060 trans so i assume the last gen skip shift would work.

Eric SS · 12-09-2015, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz

honestly I never hit it in my zl1. all you have to do is rev over like 2500 rpms in first gear you will never hit.

I bought the cable but I never installed it. It is really driving style related the only way it ever activates is if you are really grandma driving the car. you adjust you driving style pull 3k in first gear it will never ever activate.

I think they are still using the 6060 trans so i assume the last gen skip shift would work.

It really sucks in stop and go traffic. Before I got the CAGS eliminator on my 4th gen I would just let it slip into neutral for a second and then it would have no problem going into second. After a few days of doing it it was second nature to where I still did it subconsciously sometimes even after the eliminator.

SkipNWis · 12-09-2015, 10:30 PM

OK VENDERS you should be ON this

Be the first to start selling them

BrianInJackson · 12-10-2015, 12:46 AM

I am not going to be modding this car much... but this is probably on the list. I want to decide when to shift and what gear. Spent a little time with a skip shift and it didn't seem to get in the way, but... Not sure it is something I want everyday. Wish you could turn it off... Like rev match. Or adjust when it kicks in via the drive mode selector.. How about it only working in Snow/Ice, and Touring mode.. Sport and Track mode would disable it. Good idea??

Techn9cian805 · 12-10-2015, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianInJackson

I am not going to be modding this car much... but this is probably on the list. I want to decide when to shift and what gear. Spent a little time with a skip shift and it didn't seem to get in the way, but... Not sure it is something I want everyday. Wish you could turn it off... Like rev match. Or adjust when it kicks in via the drive mode selector.. How about it only working in Snow/Ice, and Touring mode.. Sport and Track mode would disable it. Good idea??

Well, you will still be able to go from 1 to 4th on your own, with the eliminator installed, you'll still get the notification that you "can only shift from 1st to 4th" but be able to ignore it.

cartem2 · 12-10-2015, 03:18 AM

I am glad thats just on the SS!! It would make since to have a track mode that disables it, probable a regulation that doesn't allow them to add that. I'm not very familiar with them as I've always driven the V6s heh. Seems like an anoying feture tho that's for sure.

Eric SS · 12-10-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cartem2

I am glad thats just on the SS!! It would make since to have a track mode that disables it, probable a regulation that doesn't allow them to add that. I'm not very familiar with them as I've always driven the V6s heh. Seems like an anoying feture tho that's for sure.

While it would be nice, there would be no reason for GM to have it disabled in track mode since it will not activate during spirited driving. Only normally coming off the line from a stop and shifting at a normal rpm. If the car is under heavy acceleration or higher rpms, it doesn't activate.

SkipNWis · 12-10-2015, 10:58 PM

COME on VENDORS ????? Somebody has got to want to sell them

?????

bhavyas · 12-11-2015, 01:43 AM

Wow... So I was wrong in thinking this comes into effect when you actually rev harder in the first gear.. I thought because you rev harder... ur engine has to work more ... meaning more fuel is consumed.. and to compensate for that .. it asks you to shift to 4th.. thereby dropping the revs and thus reducing the work the engine does... hmmm .. so it seems it kicks in when u r driving leisurely so that you can kick out more miles per gallon.. is this correct?

HDRDTD · 12-11-2015, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bhavyas

Wow... So I was wrong in thinking this comes into effect when you actually rev harder in the first gear.. I thought because you rev harder... ur engine has to work more ... meaning more fuel is consumed.. and to compensate for that .. it asks you to shift to 4th.. thereby dropping the revs and thus reducing the work the engine does... hmmm .. so it seems it kicks in when u r driving leisurely so that you can kick out more miles per gallon.. is this correct?

I don't remember the exact conditions skip shift comes into play but it's something on the order of the car being at a certain operating temp, the throttle being at a certain low percent when you shift from 1st.

Basically you have to have the car warmed up, and be accelerating at a very slow rate when you shift out of 1st. It does not totally prevent you from shifting to 2nd although the shifter 'will' move over to drop into 4th.
All you have to do is shift into neutral for a split second, then go ahead and put it into 2nd.

HDRDTD · 12-11-2015, 02:35 AM

Gear Select - Skip Shift (CAGS)
To ensure good fuel economy and compliance with federal economy standards, SECOND and THIRD gear are inhibited when shifting out of FIRST gear, under the following conditions:[*]Coolant temperature is above 50°C (122°F)[*]Vehicle speed is 20 - 29 km/h (12 - 19 mph)[*]Throttle is opened 35 percent or less

DevonK · 12-12-2015, 10:19 AM

In another thread I calculated the RPM you need to hit in first to avoid the skip shift - its damn low, barely over 2000 IIRC....

12-09-2015, 10:33 AM	#1
Techn9cian805 The BEAST Drives: '16 2SS, '89 Wife Join Date: May 2015 Location: Central Coast, CA Posts: 2,034 View My Garage	Skip-shift eliminator carry over? now... I don't know much about the mechanical aspect of cars, and I'm not gonna pretend I do, but I have been driving "spiritedly" since I was about 12-13 (IROC-Z FTW!!!!) and was a bit upset when I found out the skip shift crap is going to be part of the gen6.. upset, but not surprised. that skip shift crap makes it a pain when trying to drive relaxed but still control when I shift. so my question is this: does the skip-shift eliminator thing used on the gen5 compatible with the gen6? I don't want to have to wait a long time for a new one to come out.

12-09-2015, 01:47 PM	#3
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	honestly I never hit it in my zl1. all you have to do is rev over like 2500 rpms in first gear you will never hit. I bought the cable but I never installed it. It is really driving style related the only way it ever activates is if you are really grandma driving the car. you adjust you driving style pull 3k in first gear it will never ever activate. I think they are still using the 6060 trans so i assume the last gen skip shift would work. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

12-10-2015, 03:18 AM	#8
cartem2 Drives: Nightfall Gray 2LT RS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 638 View My Garage	I am glad thats just on the SS!! It would make since to have a track mode that disables it, probable a regulation that doesn't allow them to add that. I'm not very familiar with them as I've always driven the V6s heh. Seems like an anoying feture tho that's for sure. __________________ My Build Journal, Review, and Photos: Here Last edited by cartem2; 12-10-2015 at 04:33 AM.

12-11-2015, 01:43 AM	#11
bhavyas Drives: 2016 1SS Yellow Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: CA Posts: 629	Wow... So I was wrong in thinking this comes into effect when you actually rev harder in the first gear.. I thought because you rev harder... ur engine has to work more ... meaning more fuel is consumed.. and to compensate for that .. it asks you to shift to 4th.. thereby dropping the revs and thus reducing the work the engine does... hmmm .. so it seems it kicks in when u r driving leisurely so that you can kick out more miles per gallon.. is this correct? __________________ 1SS,Yellow,Gray Wheels,Black bow ties,NPP.

12-09-2015, 10:30 PM	#5
SkipNWis Drives: 2016/SS Has had 4 Gen 5's Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Hudson,WI Posts: 939	OK VENDERS you should be ON this Be the first to start selling them

12-10-2015, 12:46 AM	#6
BrianInJackson Drives: toyota mr2 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jackson, Ca Posts: 99	I am not going to be modding this car much... but this is probably on the list. I want to decide when to shift and what gear. Spent a little time with a skip shift and it didn't seem to get in the way, but... Not sure it is something I want everyday. Wish you could turn it off... Like rev match. Or adjust when it kicks in via the drive mode selector.. How about it only working in Snow/Ice, and Touring mode.. Sport and Track mode would disable it. Good idea??

12-10-2015, 10:58 PM	#10
SkipNWis Drives: 2016/SS Has had 4 Gen 5's Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Hudson,WI Posts: 939	COME on VENDORS ????? Somebody has got to want to sell them ?????

12-11-2015, 02:35 AM	#13
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	Gear Select - Skip Shift (CAGS) To ensure good fuel economy and compliance with federal economy standards, SECOND and THIRD gear are inhibited when shifting out of FIRST gear, under the following conditions:[]Coolant temperature is above 50°C (122°F)[]Vehicle speed is 20 - 29 km/h (12 - 19 mph)[*]Throttle is opened 35 percent or less

12-12-2015, 10:19 AM	#14
DevonK Drives: TBD Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Toronto Posts: 179	In another thread I calculated the RPM you need to hit in first to avoid the skip shift - its damn low, barely over 2000 IIRC....

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