2012 Camaro ZL1 Dealer Reference Guide is out! Specs, Equipment, Options, Allocations

[OldJedi]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Regarding the Curb Weight of 4120:

That is for the Base 6-speed Manual. Add the optional Automatic, Sunroof etc. and you'll be knockin' on 4200 lb...

That will be OK with me, you could not knock the smile off of my face with a baseball bat.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by armysig

So my question is, will the gearing help get the ZL-1 out of the Gas Guzzler tax?

I hope it counts for SOMETHING! Depending on the cost, if there's no GG on the slushbox, that might be more attractive for my general purposes. I find it hard to believe it's going to be too much different, at least considering the ratios already known for MD9 and MYD in CTS-V. I guess we're going to find out!!!

Originally Posted by OldJedi

Same weight as CTS-V and a few more horsepower, I would plan on the GG Tax to be the same as CTS-V.

I know I'm arguing another semantic, but it looks like it's about 100 pounds lighter - that's not too bad, IMVHO But, LOWDOWN, right below, brings up excellent points...

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Regarding the Curb Weight of 4120:

That is for the Base 6-speed Manual. Add the optional Automatic, Sunroof etc. and you'll be knockin' on 4200 lb...

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

I prefer to think of it as a "aero" package......

[DOOPHUS]

Off to buy a LOTTERY TICKET

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[Arachnyd]

Originally Posted by radz28

THANKS A WHOLE LOT!!! Pull a trailer?... LOL!!! Do they really have to say that? LOL!!!

Thats actually disappointing and I hope its just a catch-all.

I was planning on pulling a trailer with my ZL1. The thing I like about the ZL1 is that its a race ready car that can still be road-driven, so I'd much rather go to races pulling a small trailer with my race tires and gear in it than have to get a pickup truck and car hauler to carry the entire car.

unlike some of the audis and stuff, you can't put 4 sets of slicks and gear in the back of the camaro, so that means if you don't pull a trailer, your stuck with trailering it, which kind of defeats the purpose of having a ZL1 in my mind.

I'm sure it will be able to haul a tiny bit, so I'm hoping I'm OK... we shall see though! That would be a real disappointment if theres some special reason you can't trailer with it!

[Ron66Vette&10SS]

Very nice!!!

I normally don't harp about weight, but 4,120lbs is a bit heavier than what I was hoping for.

I was hoping for a pwr to weight ratio of under 7lbs, but 7.1 isn't too far off I guess. It obviously performs through the turns with all that weight, now the question is how will it do in the 1/4 with that weight?

[ShnOmac]

With a Nurburgring lap time of 7:41 I dont give a crap about how much it weighs..... It has more than enough performance to counter its weight "issue".

[Arachnyd]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

If one's local dealership has an allocation of 0, what is a local customer supposed to do?

Not to mention, with the 1500 mile break in period, it might make most sense to buy it about 1500 miles away...

[armysig]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

If one's local dealership has an allocation of 0, what is a local customer supposed to do?

I rewrote my thoughts on this 3 times, and nothing seemed to be working on how I wanted to convay my thoughts. I guess I just want to see people in a local market get a fair shot vs someone buying a car that's 1000 to 2000 miles away.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by OldJedi

That will be OK with me, you could not knock the smile off of my face with a baseball bat.

Ultra-Grin

Originally Posted by BumblebeeAmigo

Thats actually disappointing and I hope its just a catch-all.

I was planning on pulling a trailer with my ZL1. The thing I like about the ZL1 is that its a race ready car that can still be road-driven, so I'd much rather go to races pulling a small trailer with my race tires and gear in it than have to get a pickup truck and car hauler to carry the entire car.

unlike some of the audis and stuff, you can't put 4 sets of slicks and gear in the back of the camaro, so that means if you don't pull a trailer, your stuck with trailering it, which kind of defeats the purpose of having a ZL1 in my mind.

I'm sure it will be able to haul a tiny bit, so I'm hoping I'm OK... we shall see though! That would be a real disappointment if theres some special reason you can't trailer with it!

Excellent points. I'm sure it'd pull a trailer for something like that. Surely - boasting a track-ready car should probably also involve the consideration of the ancillary race-track hardware necessary for having some fun

Originally Posted by Ron66Vette&10SS

Very nice!!!

I normally don't harp about weight, but 4,120lbs is a bit heavier than what I was hoping for.

I was hoping for a pwr to weight ratio of under 7lbs, but 7.1 isn't too far off I guess. It obviously performs through the turns with all that weight, now the question is how will it do in the 1/4 with that weight?

That the 'V runs a bottom 12, I'm thinking a little more power and grip, with less weight, will improve upon already impressive times

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

With a Nurburgring lap time of 7:41 I dont give a crap about how much it weighs..... It has more than enough performance to counter its weight "issue".

Our Sponsor-built cars have been proving this time-after-time

Originally Posted by BumblebeeAmigo

Not to mention, with the 1500 mile break in period, it might make most sense to buy it about 1500 miles away...

That'd be a SWEET break-in.

[Arachnyd]

Originally Posted by armysig

I rewrote my thoughts on this 3 times, and nothing seemed to be working on how I wanted to convay my thoughts. I guess I just want to see people in a local market get a fair shot vs someone buying a car that's 1000 to 2000 miles away.

If you use the car for 2 reasons - 1. to make money, 2. to use as a flagship to build brand equity, then your argument makes sense.

If a company is short term oriented, they will only go for the quick buck, and would want to sell to whoever pays the greatest dollar. This thought process got the american companies in big trouble a few years back- you have to look long term to be successful, so therefore you do want some solid geographic distribution to help build the chevrolet brand image, as places that sell less ZL1s will probably sell more chevrolets over all (think rust belt), therefore you want some ZL1s there even if they can't support the same dollar impact as say the west coast.

Therefore I agree with you!

(although I like the break in period argument too)

[radz28]

Originally Posted by armysig

I rewrote my thoughts on this 3 times, and nothing seemed to be working on how I wanted to convay my thoughts. I guess I just want to see people in a local market get a fair shot vs someone buying a car that's 1000 to 2000 miles away.

It stinks, but it'll be a lot easier for the '13 MY

[LOWDOWN]

I would seriously doubt, for "competitive reasons", you'll see a Master List of ZL1 Allocations. I mean, why would dealers do that?! And, as some have said, what's "fact" today may change next week/month/year...

[SSOOCH]

4120!! Good LORD.... ZL1 stands for "Zee Large One"!!!

[djsnoflake]

Originally Posted by ChevyCowboy

4120 lbs oucchhhh

about what I had in mind