Z51 Stingrays... Wait Could Be A Year...

Hulkamaniac · 01-25-2014, 09:18 AM

Sorry if this has been posted before. Not too savy on searching the forums.

Found an interesting article that insiders at GM are saying that the delays for the Z51 Package could be a year or more.

Quote:

According to GM Authority, sources deep inside the Chevy dealer network are saying that customers who place an order for a Corvette with the Z51 performance package will have to wait a year or more. It could take so long that these cars might technically be 2015 models.

http://www.lsxtv.com/news/wait-list-...eaches-a-year/

The wait doesn't bother me. Anything that's worth having is worth waiting for and 15 is my lucky number.

OperativeXIV · 01-25-2014, 11:22 AM

If they're behind by so long now, is there a point where they will be able to meet demand and get that down to a reasonable number, or does this mean it will be an ongoing issue with any Z51 package that you'll have to wait a year? Sorry, I'm not very experienced in such things and I'm just curious.

Glen e · 01-25-2014, 12:29 PM

all very old news....

gthal · 01-25-2014, 02:33 PM

My Z51 was built a couple of weeks ago... others are being built too. This isn't accurate but there are still production limits.

mowilson329 · 01-25-2014, 02:44 PM

As Glen said......."old news".

Ordered my Z51 on 11/19 and it is already built and is waiting to ship.....

laborsmith · 01-25-2014, 04:41 PM

It looks like 60-90 Z51s are going to 3400 every week and it also looks like that number is very close to meeting demand. It also looks like this will be the pattern for the rest of the model year.

I have not seen the last day a 2014 can be ordered but it is usually sometime in May and model year production normally ends at the end of June. Any order put in during these late winter early spring months going to 3000 will certainly come off the line by then.

Laborsmith

Emmdmd · 01-25-2014, 08:04 PM

Can't see it. Mine is a z51 and went to 3400 yesterday. Build date next Thursday and Friday

FenwickHockey65 · 01-25-2014, 08:21 PM

This is from back in October.

C7Driver · 01-26-2014, 01:47 AM

Sure hope this info is wrong. My dealer tells me my order is about eight weeks out. If that isn't the case I'll be canceling the order and buying from a dealer with stock on the lot. There's no wait for that kind of purchase but you have to accept what they have. I'd rather have the order I placed in the color and options I selected.

laborsmith · 01-26-2014, 09:16 AM

Z51s are being assembled and the number each week may seem low but appears to be meeting demand. I phrase it like that because some Z51 Stingrays are showing up in dealer stock.

In the past Chevy has pulled a retail sold order before dealer stock if the dealer has allocation and it looks like this is true in the present. The quote that started this thread was outdated the day it appeared. I put that quote in the same tray as a different statement supposedly by a GM exec that the Stingray was in the last couple years of production.

Laborsmith

Richardlord · 01-26-2014, 01:54 PM

Went to the Washington DC Auto Show and spoke with several Chevy Reps (there were 3 C7s on display - 2 coupes 1w/ Z51, & 1 Vert) - Spoke about my order for a 3LT Z51 Vert w/FAY and highly optioned - Said allocation for dealers that had beginning allocation is not a problem - A smaller dealer there said it is getting cars - The problem still is constraints with the more options the more the likelihood Chevy can't get all what it needs at the same time to build my C7 (on order since July) - Was told I may get my car sometime in the Spring (end of March early April and maybe not even then) - Cars keep getting bumped ahead of my order that Chevy can build - This is old news that remains new news every day I do not get my C7 - Don't know how Chevy prioritizes like orders (if 10 orders are exactly like mine, which is #1 and which is #10) - Maybe LABORSMITH can advise us how Chevy prioritizes orders (by dealer, order date, etc.)

laborsmith · 01-26-2014, 03:35 PM

First: constraints is not exclusive to Corvette or even to Chevrolet. We notice Corvette (and Camaro to a less extent) constraints because so many buyers order instead of buying off the lot. It does not help that some of the Corvette constraints are for expensive to produce parts such as the exposed carbon fiber roof. An after market company can make a profit producing several say carbon fiber hoods even though each is basically hand made, and they can sell such a hood with a small imperfection. Imagine selling a Corvette to a new car buyer with same!

Second and to the point: allocations are distributed based on a previous model year orders of a particular vehicle line. (For the C7 the 2012 model year.) Say a dealer sold 1 Corvette every month but December and May; that dealer will be allocated 1 Corvette every month except December and May. If additional allocations become available, same will be given to dealers successfully moving their allocations.

Third: the dealer sets priority but all retail sold order are given priority 1. Order date has little to do with assembly date. (For the big dealers even less.) Good dealers give priority to earliest orders but as members of this Forum may have noticed no priority will trump a constraint. And allocation is use it or it will be given to another dealer.

Laborsmith

laborsmith · 01-28-2014, 04:04 PM

Several parts make up the Z51 package. To my knowledge no one specific part has been implicated regarding the Z51 constraint.

Chevy is currently constraining Z51 to 60-90 units a week.

Chevy avoids announcing specifics regarding constraints. The carbon fiber roof was announced but only because dealers were told that transparent roof orders would be picked and suggested dealers change orders.

Body colored carbon fiber roofs are now being produced but exposed carbon fiber roof orders continue to lag behind.

Laborsmith

Steve Dallas · 01-28-2014, 05:40 PM

I ordered mine a couple of weeks ago. My dealer was pretty confident it would be 2-3 months...but we'll see.

01-25-2014, 11:22 AM	#2
OperativeXIV Drives: 2012 Summit White 2LT/RS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Phoenix Posts: 71	If they're behind by so long now, is there a point where they will be able to meet demand and get that down to a reasonable number, or does this mean it will be an ongoing issue with any Z51 package that you'll have to wait a year? Sorry, I'm not very experienced in such things and I'm just curious. __________________

01-25-2014, 12:29 PM	#3
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01-25-2014, 02:33 PM	#4
gthal Drives: 2014 Z51 coupe Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NS, Canada Posts: 96	My Z51 was built a couple of weeks ago... others are being built too. This isn't accurate but there are still production limits. __________________ Current: 2014 Z51 \| Torch red \| Black interior Previous: 2012 C63 AMG coupe \| Obsidian black \| Red/black interior \| Performance Package Previous: 1996 BMW M3 \| Estoril blue \| Track car \| Heavily modded for the track but still street legal... barely Previous: 2011 M3 coupe \| Jerez black \| Fox Red interior \| Competition Package \| M-DCT

01-25-2014, 02:44 PM	#5
mowilson329 Drives: 2014 Stingray 1LT/Z51 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 193	As Glen said......."old news". Ordered my Z51 on 11/19 and it is already built and is waiting to ship..... __________________ Cliff

01-25-2014, 08:21 PM	#8
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01-25-2014, 04:41 PM	#6
laborsmith Drives: 1969 Corvair, 2018 Camaro T4 RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Detroit Metropolitan Area Posts: 2,881	It looks like 60-90 Z51s are going to 3400 every week and it also looks like that number is very close to meeting demand. It also looks like this will be the pattern for the rest of the model year. I have not seen the last day a 2014 can be ordered but it is usually sometime in May and model year production normally ends at the end of June. Any order put in during these late winter early spring months going to 3000 will certainly come off the line by then. Laborsmith

01-25-2014, 08:04 PM	#7
Emmdmd Drives: 2015 Z06 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Cream Ridge, NJ Posts: 65	Can't see it. Mine is a z51 and went to 3400 yesterday. Build date next Thursday and Friday

01-26-2014, 01:47 AM	#9
C7Driver Drives: 2014 Z51 Lime Rock Green Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: New England Posts: 148	Sure hope this info is wrong. My dealer tells me my order is about eight weeks out. If that isn't the case I'll be canceling the order and buying from a dealer with stock on the lot. There's no wait for that kind of purchase but you have to accept what they have. I'd rather have the order I placed in the color and options I selected.

01-26-2014, 09:16 AM	#10
laborsmith Drives: 1969 Corvair, 2018 Camaro T4 RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Detroit Metropolitan Area Posts: 2,881	Z51s are being assembled and the number each week may seem low but appears to be meeting demand. I phrase it like that because some Z51 Stingrays are showing up in dealer stock. In the past Chevy has pulled a retail sold order before dealer stock if the dealer has allocation and it looks like this is true in the present. The quote that started this thread was outdated the day it appeared. I put that quote in the same tray as a different statement supposedly by a GM exec that the Stingray was in the last couple years of production. Laborsmith

01-26-2014, 01:54 PM	#11
Richardlord Drives: Dodge Magnum RT Hemi AWD Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Potomac River Home in Southern MD Posts: 283	Went to the Washington DC Auto Show and spoke with several Chevy Reps (there were 3 C7s on display - 2 coupes 1w/ Z51, & 1 Vert) - Spoke about my order for a 3LT Z51 Vert w/FAY and highly optioned - Said allocation for dealers that had beginning allocation is not a problem - A smaller dealer there said it is getting cars - The problem still is constraints with the more options the more the likelihood Chevy can't get all what it needs at the same time to build my C7 (on order since July) - Was told I may get my car sometime in the Spring (end of March early April and maybe not even then) - Cars keep getting bumped ahead of my order that Chevy can build - This is old news that remains new news every day I do not get my C7 - Don't know how Chevy prioritizes like orders (if 10 orders are exactly like mine, which is #1 and which is #10) - Maybe LABORSMITH can advise us how Chevy prioritizes orders (by dealer, order date, etc.)

01-26-2014, 03:35 PM	#12
laborsmith Drives: 1969 Corvair, 2018 Camaro T4 RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Detroit Metropolitan Area Posts: 2,881	First: constraints is not exclusive to Corvette or even to Chevrolet. We notice Corvette (and Camaro to a less extent) constraints because so many buyers order instead of buying off the lot. It does not help that some of the Corvette constraints are for expensive to produce parts such as the exposed carbon fiber roof. An after market company can make a profit producing several say carbon fiber hoods even though each is basically hand made, and they can sell such a hood with a small imperfection. Imagine selling a Corvette to a new car buyer with same! Second and to the point: allocations are distributed based on a previous model year orders of a particular vehicle line. (For the C7 the 2012 model year.) Say a dealer sold 1 Corvette every month but December and May; that dealer will be allocated 1 Corvette every month except December and May. If additional allocations become available, same will be given to dealers successfully moving their allocations. Third: the dealer sets priority but all retail sold order are given priority 1. Order date has little to do with assembly date. (For the big dealers even less.) Good dealers give priority to earliest orders but as members of this Forum may have noticed no priority will trump a constraint. And allocation is use it or it will be given to another dealer. Laborsmith Last edited by laborsmith; 01-28-2014 at 08:35 AM. Reason: change the word sales to orders

01-28-2014, 04:04 PM	#13
laborsmith Drives: 1969 Corvair, 2018 Camaro T4 RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Detroit Metropolitan Area Posts: 2,881	Several parts make up the Z51 package. To my knowledge no one specific part has been implicated regarding the Z51 constraint. Chevy is currently constraining Z51 to 60-90 units a week. Chevy avoids announcing specifics regarding constraints. The carbon fiber roof was announced but only because dealers were told that transparent roof orders would be picked and suggested dealers change orders. Body colored carbon fiber roofs are now being produced but exposed carbon fiber roof orders continue to lag behind. Laborsmith

01-28-2014, 05:40 PM	#14
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