Hydroplaning issues

[Chevy_cowboy]

Originally Posted by Red2014SS

What car comes from the factory with Blizzaks? Name one.

P-Zeros rock! They're the best. I am conforming.

So they're only bad tires if their used as OE?


As for Pzero's on F150's, got a link to that? I couldn't find anything about it. Seems strange to put a high performance car tire on a pickup truck, I'll agree with ya there, not sure tiny sidewall height would be good for payload and towing capacity either.

[Red2014SS]

Originally Posted by Chevy_cowboy

So they're only bad tires if their used as OE?

That's not the point. People pretty much drive off the lot with OEM tires. Auto makers have a choice of what tire to use as OEM. Pirelli obviously goes after that market.. Blizzaks are only installed by choice, after someone has decided they need a snow tire - So it's a totally different situation.... And I never said they were better than P-Zeros. You brought them up to cloud the issue.

Originally Posted by Chevy_cowboy

As for Pzero's on F150's, got a link to that? I couldn't find anything about it. Seems strange to put a high performance car tire on a pickup truck, I'll agree with ya there, not sure tiny sidewall height would be good for payload and towing capacity either.

Nope. I don't need a link... I owned a 2012 Ford F150 FX4 4x4 pickup. I bought it new. Sticker was $52K... It came new with P-Zeros.

Perhaps they really aren't "high performance car tires"? .. Maybe they're just cheap? Maybe that's why the SS has a speed limiter because of the P-Zeros. Maybe "performance" got put aside to save several million bucks??

.. and maybe not. The P-Zeros are wonderful tires. Everyone buys them when they need new tires.

[Chevy_cowboy]

Fords 2012 brochure says FX4's had all season or all terrain tires on it. I think you're probably confusing scorpions with Pzeros http://www.ford.com/services/assets/...stalCode=43566


And the speed limiter on the SS has nothing to do with the tires (that are rated for 186mph) its because of aerodynamics. In stock trim and ride height, the SS loses most of its downforce at 155mph and becomes rather floaty. The tires would be fine well above that but they might not be on the ground anymore.

And if you think Pirelli's are cheap tires, you really haven't priced them or compared them to actual cheap tires.

[Red2014SS]

Originally Posted by Chevy_cowboy

Fords 2012 brochure says FX4's had all season or all terrain tires on it. I think you're probably confusing scorpions with Pzeros http://www.ford.com/services/assets/...stalCode=43566


And the speed limiter on the SS has nothing to do with the tires (that are rated for 186mph) its because of aerodynamics. In stock trim and ride height, the SS loses most of its downforce at 155mph and becomes rather floaty. The tires would be fine well above that but they might not be on the ground anymore.

And if you think Pirelli's are cheap tires, you really haven't priced them or compared them to actual cheap tires.

I'm not confusing anything. The 2012 FX4 came from the factory with P-Zeros. The cheaper models got Scorpions. I owned one. And I refuse to jump through hoops and go link hunting for you. If you don't believe it, I don't care.

It's funny...
Just about everyone replaces the OEM air cleaner with a CAI.
Just about everyone replaces the exhaust with aftermarket
There are a zillion "approved" mods.. mainly because the aftermarket offers a better product.

But in the thread where someone crashed..... (several threads actually)...

....Don't dare even mention that the OEM P-Zeros may have contributed to hydroplaning. It had to have been driver error, (especially since the driver was a women!). I love my Camaro. I once thought the P-Zeros were decent - until I upgraded. Chevy Fanboys. I need to re-educate.

Anyways, good night! ... P-Zeros are the best. I am learning.

[Chevy_cowboy]

[ToolFan66]

No truck came with Pzeros...

[cb66]

Originally Posted by Chevy_cowboy

from the factory?

I thought you had to add RS to get the bigger wheels and tires on a V6

The 2012 LT Non RS that I used to own came from the factory with Pzeros, on the 19 inch polished alloy wheels where ever it was started that they were only on SS or RS models I don't know but it is incorrect information.

[Chevy_cowboy]

Originally Posted by cb66

The 2012 LT Non RS that I used to own came from the factory with Pzeros, on the 19 inch polished alloy wheels where ever it was started that they were only on SS models I don't know but it is incorrect information.

oh I see, I knew you had to go RS to get the 20" wheels, I thought the 19's had all season tires. Guess I was wrong.

[SlingShot]

Originally Posted by Chevy_cowboy

oh I see, I knew you had to go RS to get the 20" wheels, I thought the 19's had all season tires. Guess I was wrong.

You aren't wrong, the 19' P-Zero's are different ... Just as the 19" P-Zero's on the Z/28 ...

[Chevy_cowboy]

Originally Posted by SlingShot

You aren't wrong, the 19' P-Zero's are different ... Just as the 19" P-Zero's on the Z/28 ...

ah ok, are they Nero's or something?