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KKreme15 · 06-13-2012, 07:26 PM

A friend is getting one, and has challenged me in my ZL1. I won't end up racing him as I am not about that street racing life, but out of curiosity, what would it look like from a dig? From a roll?

evolve · 06-13-2012, 07:32 PM

Drivers race.

They trap about 116mph, so really it is whoever can shift faster.

Deki · 06-13-2012, 07:32 PM

The coupes have ran 12.1s to 12.2s in mag tests, and trap high teens, it's gonna be very close. I'd say driver's race.

NoMercy · 06-13-2012, 07:41 PM

Eh, I say you'll take him. When I had just cam, headers, cai, and tune I ran a guy in one and pulled him about a car length or so to about 130. I was putting down 461 rwhp at the time and your doing more than that. Now the E55 AMG (Kompressor) guy.... we were dead even and I think he was stock. None of this happened on the street of course.

VADER SS L99 · 06-13-2012, 07:43 PM

You should be able to take the base model and I think it would be a drivers race on the black series. If he does get the black series remind him that you could of bought 2 ZL1's for the price of 1 of his cars.

ParisTNDude · 06-13-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KKreme15

A friend is getting one, and has challenged me in my ZL1. I won't end up racing him as I am not about that street racing life, but out of curiosity, what would it look like from a dig? From a roll?

You'll get your butt handed to you! Take a look at this months Car & Driver where they test the Audi A6, BMW M5 and the AMG. All three are at or below 12 seconds and the concensus is that the ZL1 is a 12.2 car for the most part.

Deki · 06-13-2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

You'll get your butt handed to you! Take a look at this months Car & Driver where they test the Audi A6, BMW M5 and the AMG. All three are at or below 12 seconds and the concensus is that the ZL1 is a 12.2 car for the most part.

Holy crap we agree on something. If you were local I'd buy you a beer!

Nice new SS by the way.

ParisTNDude · 06-13-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deki

Holy crap we agree on something. If you were local I'd buy you a beer!

Nice new SS by the way.

That's some kind of miracle, ain't it? I bet we agree on more than we disagree! Lol.... Thanks, I love the new LS3 but the L99 was faster with the same mods...I'm trying to fix that.

Deki · 06-13-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

That's some kind of miracle, ain't it? I bet we agree on more than we disagree! Lol.... Thanks, I love the new LS3 but the L99 was faster with the same mods...I'm trying to fix that.

I agree! That's two in a row! /thread jack What mods are you doing to it?/end thread jack

VADER SS L99 · 06-13-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

You'll get your butt handed to you! Take a look at this months Car & Driver where they test the Audi A6, BMW M5 and the AMG. All three are at or below 12 seconds and the concensus is that the ZL1 is a 12.2 car for the most part.

Did'nt see the test you were talking about but I read the M3 coupe vs C63 AMG coupe and the AMG was a low 12 second car same as the ZL1. I think it would be a drivers race. The term You'll get your butt handed to you! is way off unless the OP messes up the launch and or shifts. It would be a drivers race I think for sure.

evolve · 06-13-2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

You should be able to take the base model and I think it would be a drivers race on the black series. If he does get the black series remind him that you could of bought 2 ZL1's for the price of 1 of his cars.

et is not a factor in say a rolling 45mph start at an airstrip

It is all about the mph. Trap speeds can be used to determine the "faster" car with very little in the part of the driver/traction,the et will tell you who is "quicker" and has ALOT to do with the driver/traction/susp.

VADER SS L99 · 06-13-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by evolve

et is not a factor in say a rolling 45mph start at an airstrip

It is all about the mph. Trap speeds can be used to determine the "faster" car with very little in the part of the driver/traction,the et will tell you who is "quicker" and has ALOT to do with the driver/traction/susp.

They both trap about the same. If we were talking roll race on a airstrip I would bet heavy on the ZL1. It has a much better power to weight ratio.

A-little-perspective · 06-14-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

You should be able to take the base model and I think it would be a drivers race on the black series. If he does get the black series remind him that you could of bought 2 ZL1's for the price of 1 of his cars.

I don't think a ZL1 could touch a C63 Black Series on a strip or a road course.

A normal C63 on the strip, yeah a drivers race. The P31 Development package C63 on the strip, it's still probably a drivers race. On a road course the ZL1 would probably beat these two.

KKreme15 · 06-14-2012, 10:17 AM

Can anyone tell if this is the development package?

06-13-2012, 07:26 PM	#1
KKreme15 Drives: C6 Z06 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dayton, MD Posts: 1,645	ZL1 vs c63 amg coupe A friend is getting one, and has challenged me in my ZL1. I won't end up racing him as I am not about that street racing life, but out of curiosity, what would it look like from a dig? From a roll?

06-13-2012, 07:32 PM	#2
evolve Drives: 03 Cobra Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cyber Space Posts: 508	Drivers race. They trap about 116mph, so really it is whoever can shift faster. __________________ 2003 Cobra (Stock Motor/Boost Only) 640rwhp/ 550rwtq on 93... Well over 700rwhp on CORN

06-13-2012, 07:32 PM	#3
Deki Drives: 2018 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,764 View My Garage	The coupes have ran 12.1s to 12.2s in mag tests, and trap high teens, it's gonna be very close. I'd say driver's race. __________________ 2018 Mustang GT

06-13-2012, 07:41 PM	#4
NoMercy Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 192	Eh, I say you'll take him. When I had just cam, headers, cai, and tune I ran a guy in one and pulled him about a car length or so to about 130. I was putting down 461 rwhp at the time and your doing more than that. Now the E55 AMG (Kompressor) guy.... we were dead even and I think he was stock. None of this happened on the street of course. __________________ Magnuson TVS 2300, 16% OD rear pullies(stock 3.8 on front jackshaft), Vector Motorsports 2.5 cam, hardened push rods, titanium retainers, patriot gold double springs, Dynatech 1 7/8 Longtube headers, gutted cats, F.A.S.T. 90lb. injectors, Lonnie's double pumper fuel pump, ZR1 Plugs, Airade cai, HP tuned by East Texas Musclecars. 660 rwhp / 611 rwtq

06-13-2012, 07:43 PM	#5
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	You should be able to take the base model and I think it would be a drivers race on the black series. If he does get the black series remind him that you could of bought 2 ZL1's for the price of 1 of his cars. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

06-14-2012, 10:17 AM	#14
KKreme15 Drives: C6 Z06 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dayton, MD Posts: 1,645	Can anyone tell if this is the development package?