Z/28 MSRP ABOVE 70K - Page 11 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

shaffe · 08-26-2013, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Exigent

$70k is worth it but what will dealers try to add ? $10k?

certain dealers by me were adding 2-3K to just the SS when it first came out in late 09. I would not be surprised if those certain dealers were adding 15-25K to a Z/28 if they got one.

ParisTNDude · 08-26-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheveey57

Most people here don't appreciate a true hot rod. They want back up camaras, memory seats etc. back in the day you would order a car with radio and heater delete. The AC was an option you wouldn't want. That being said if they were making these Z28 with 2013 tail lights I would buy one in a heartbeat. Since the the prototypes came out I wanted lighter cars. I don't want all the extra crap. In fact if I could sign a waiver and get one without the bull**** airbags I would.

In GM days past, you could take some money to the Chevy dealership and sit down with an order form. You could put almost any engine in any of the various models of "full size" Chevys. It would be awesome if you could order the parts you want on your Z and leave the others out. Yeah, I know...they are engineered to perform with certain parts installed for safety reasons etc. But there could have been a Z28 pick and choose on the order form. Now, the only option is AC and a couple minor parts.

This thread sounds a lot like the 2014 Corvette threads on Corvetteforum. Everyone criticized the new Corvette until they released the performance numbers. Now, it's a totally different story. I'm sure, once the performance factors are released, all will see the Z28 Camaro as a great bargain...they'll have no trouble selling all they can build...IMO.

ParisTNDude · 08-26-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JPC

hmmm
please check some facts:
I understand 750 Boss LS and 3500 Boss 302 per year was built
so a total of 8500 Boss over 2 years
....epic failure???

I have yet seen a Camaro 1LE at the track I go to
...I run about once a month

I'd love to see a 1LE at the track
I run at Eagles Canyon Raceway just north of Dallas

yes the Z28 so far sounds impressive, now lets see the price?
I know MSRP on Bosses were in the low to mid 40's

It's pretty obvious, you didn't try to buy a Boss LS. I did and the lowest price I found off the dealer showroom floor was $78K. Now, in retrospect, God did me a favor by keeping me from buying one of Ford's "best" track cars.

Russo · 08-26-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

This thread sounds a lot like the 2014 Corvette threads on Corvetteforum. Everyone criticized the new Corvette until they released the performance numbers. Now, it's a totally different story. I'm sure, once the performance factors are released, all will see the Z28 Camaro as a great bargain...they'll have no trouble selling all they can build...IMO.

im not saying thats not true, but we both know the c6 was about 3 years past it's expiration date.. people were tired of parts bin changes, they wanted some substance.. the z28 is a parts bin car and the only exclusivity you really are getting is the suspension.. the motor, although more powerful, isn't anything as exciting as when the motor was released for the ZL1..

macalot · 08-26-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Russo

....... the motor, although more powerful, isn't anything as exciting as when the motor was released for the ZL1..

This depends upon one's perspective.

Bhobbs · 08-26-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Russo

im not saying thats not true, but we both know the c6 was about 3 years past it's expiration date.. people were tired of parts bin changes, they wanted some substance.. the z28 is a parts bin car and the only exclusivity you really are getting is the suspension.. the motor, although more powerful, isn't anything as exciting as when the motor was released for the ZL1..

Wheels, tires, breaks, suspension, aero, rear glass, harnesses and other parts aren't exclusive enough?

The LSA wasn't released for the ZL1, it was already in the CTS-V.

*mlee* · 08-26-2013, 03:44 PM

Can I change the title of this thread to 80K??

Some of you guys are going to be soooo disappointed.

2cnd chance · 08-26-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Wheels, tires, breaks, suspension, aero, rear glass, harnesses and other parts aren't exclusive enough?

The LSA wasn't released for the ZL1, it was already in the CTS-V.

macalot · 08-26-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Can I change the title of this thread to 80K??

Some of you guys are going to be soooo disappointed.

The only thing I'll be soooo disappointed with will be GM. I can easily live without a new Z/28, if I believe they price it way out there.

*mlee* · 08-26-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by macalot

The only thing I'll be soooo disappointed with will be GM. I can easily live without a new Z/28, if I believe they price it way out there.

I didn't say what or who you'd be disappointed in...

...just that you will be if you want one for under 80k..JMHO

Oak · 08-27-2013, 09:29 AM

At over $80,000 for a little more I can get a M5 or GTR or a 2013 z06

I'm guessing between $59,995 & $64,995

They would not get many buyers at anything over that.

This car is cool but it still has hardly any comfort features, a cheep interior and its old tech, at least the motor.

The camaro is a younger mans car. With the new C7 its going to be hard to order a Z/28 for all but the most serious track guys.

It all depends if they are shooting for super limited production or a new model to the camaro line.

Chevy is a business they want to sell cars, sell 1500 cars for 85k or sell 5000 cars a year for 62k?

LOWDOWN · 08-27-2013, 12:14 PM

But what if they "can't" build 5000? Sadly, with the content changes combined with the "necessary" low volume, a higher-than-desired MSRP is the result.

Remember the development co$t$ MUST be covered...by "X" volume... If it was possible to raise the volume to "2X", the resulting MSRP would only drop by a very few $1,000, NOT 10s of $1,000s.

Keep in mind, too, this version sets the stage for the Gen-6 Z/28 and its undoubted performance improvements (!!) Built and available earlier in that Generation's lifecycle, we'll see enhanced performance AND a more moderate price point...and I can't wait for THAT one...lighter, better weight-to-power, and even more nimble.

Russo · 08-27-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Wheels, tires, breaks, suspension, aero, rear glass, harnesses and other parts aren't exclusive enough?

The LSA wasn't released for the ZL1, it was already in the CTS-V.

nope, none of that stuff matters (except for the suspension, as i previously mentioned).. it's like Porsche putting nylon pull tabs on a RS door panel instead of traditional door lever.. it's a selling point, but a real racer is going to take the door panel completely off..

i dont care what the LSA was initially released for, the point is that when it was released for the Camaro, the reception from US (The Camaro Community) was more thrilled than the LS7..

yenkotown · 08-27-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZL1 Spoked

Rather get a fully loaded shelby

So buy a dime a dozen car that they can't give it away....as they wait for another wannabe boat anchor sled......

Sorry I had too say what true car guys feel...........

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08-27-2013, 09:29 AM	#151
Oak Drives: Camry Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: IL Posts: 4	At over $80,000 for a little more I can get a M5 or GTR or a 2013 z06 I'm guessing between $59,995 & $64,995 They would not get many buyers at anything over that. This car is cool but it still has hardly any comfort features, a cheep interior and its old tech, at least the motor. The camaro is a younger mans car. With the new C7 its going to be hard to order a Z/28 for all but the most serious track guys. It all depends if they are shooting for super limited production or a new model to the camaro line. Chevy is a business they want to sell cars, sell 1500 cars for 85k or sell 5000 cars a year for 62k?

08-27-2013, 12:14 PM	#152
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	But what if they "can't" build 5000? Sadly, with the content changes combined with the "necessary" low volume, a higher-than-desired MSRP is the result. Remember the development co$t$ MUST be covered...by "X" volume... If it was possible to raise the volume to "2X", the resulting MSRP would only drop by a very few $1,000, NOT 10s of $1,000s. Keep in mind, too, this version sets the stage for the Gen-6 Z/28 and its undoubted performance improvements (!!) Built and available earlier in that Generation's lifecycle, we'll see enhanced performance AND a more moderate price point...and I can't wait for THAT one...lighter, better weight-to-power, and even more nimble.