GT500 700+ hp - Page 2

shaffe · 01-16-2018, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

You can bet that by the time the 500 comes out the ZL1 will have a horsepower bump. That is called marketing. You saturate the market with a level of competence, and offer bigger badder and saturate again. "Wash rinse repeat"

It will be interesting to see if they bump the power. They chose not to in the 5th gen even when the 662 HP GT500 came out and the Hellcat they stood pat with 580.

Even in the Corvette they have pretty much stood their ground with the engine as is.

FringBirdAloha · 01-16-2018, 10:07 AM

Precisely why we’ll be seeing the LT5 in the Camaro.

FringBirdAloha · 01-16-2018, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

It will be interesting to see if they bump the power. They chose not to in the 5th gen even when the 662 HP GT500 came out and the Hellcat they stood pat with 580.

Even in the Corvette they have pretty much stood their ground with the engine as is.

It won’t be a bump. It’ll be a new model.

URBAN LEGEND · 01-16-2018, 10:26 AM

I bet someone went to dealer this morning to put money down on this car. Their dream car.

GrimReaperSS · 01-16-2018, 10:44 AM

Waiting to see how many will complain that it has an oversized lower grill just like the ZL1/ZL1 1LE. Or the common complaints these days of "it looks like this car" or "it looks like the bastard child of this car and this car".

travislambert · 01-16-2018, 10:50 AM

Something doesn't add up with the timing of this announcement. To me, I feel like the car will arrive much sooner to surprise everyone... or Ford had something unexpected happen that delayed the planned debut.

Battlezone580 · 01-16-2018, 11:14 AM

Great news I'm happy to see ford is coming out with a new GT500! I'm sure it will also be track capable. I picture this car being a GT350R with more technology and power. If the new GT500 could beat the ZL1 1LE around the track I would be highly impressed, and I think its a realistic expectation.

shaffe · 01-16-2018, 11:15 AM

If it beats the ZLE around a track I will be very impressed. I don't know if they can, but that would be damn impressive

KMPrenger · 01-16-2018, 11:23 AM

Come on guys. You know the standard GT500 is not going to be a ZL1 1LE track beater. Now if they come out with an "R" version, all bets are off on that one. I do expect it to give the standard ZL1 a hard time on the track, and for sure be quicker in a straight line.

I am excited about this car though. Its a new GT500 with over 700 HP...that in of itself is awesome.

But even if it does "only" cost 70 or 75K, to me, the ZL1 is still a bargain which can be had in the low 60s. If Ford had a starting price on this car in the mid to upper 60s, now that would be impressive (more so).

I don't see Chevy upping the HP rating on the LT4, and certainly not another 60 - 70 HP to match or beat the GT500. Sure, they could drop the LT5 in there, but you can kiss that low 60K price goodbye if that happened.

shaffe · 01-16-2018, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Come on guys. You know the standard GT500 is not going to be a ZL1 1LE track beater. Now if they come out with an "R" version, all bets are off on that one. I do expect it to give the standard ZL1 a hard time on the track, and for sure be quicker in a straight line.

I am excited about this car though. Its a new GT500 with over 700 HP...that in of itself is awesome.

But even if it does "only" cost 70 or 75K, to me, the ZL1 is still a bargain which can be had in the low 60s. If Ford had a starting price on this car in the mid to upper 60s, now that would be impressive (more so).

I don't see Chevy upping the HP rating on the LT4, and certainly not another 60 - 70 HP to match or beat the GT500. Sure, they could drop the LT5 in there, but you can kiss that low 60K price goodbye if that happened.

This is why i am so curious to where they slot the car.

If Ford only offers one version of the 500 in the 70+ range, than it better damn well beat the standard Z in every measurable and by a decent margin on a track.

To me it will go one of two ways.

They have a 500 and 500R to compete against Z and ZLE similarly priced(With the Ford probably being a bit more expensive on the "base")

Or the 500 is in between the Z and ZLE. It outperforms the ZL1 but not quite on the same level as the ZLE and is priced accordingly.

Rlhay2 · 01-16-2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by travislambert

or Ford had something unexpected happen that delayed the planned debut.

This car was suppose to release in 2017 (50th Anniversary).

GrimReaperSS · 01-16-2018, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rlhay2

This car was suppose to release in 2017 (50th Anniversary).

Although 2019 still works because Ford took over the GT500 in 1969, instead of it really being a true Shelby car.

dw760 · 01-16-2018, 11:44 AM

Im sure the 2019 GT-500 will be competitive and a great car, other than Ford dealers think the cars are Gold and mark them up $15 to $25K.

For that reason alone they can keep it, and i will always own a Camaro SS 1LE or the Zl1.

DW

ST1LE · 01-16-2018, 11:45 AM

Damn, this is going to be an awesome car!

01-16-2018, 10:26 AM	#18
URBAN LEGEND Drives: 20 X3M CP & 19 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Brenham, TX Posts: 3,517	I bet someone went to dealer this morning to put money down on this car. Their dream car. __________________ 🔺22 RS E TRON GT 🔺21 Model S Plaid

01-16-2018, 10:50 AM	#20
travislambert Drives: '17 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 1,558	Something doesn't add up with the timing of this announcement. To me, I feel like the car will arrive much sooner to surprise everyone... or Ford had something unexpected happen that delayed the planned debut. __________________ 2023 Camaro SS 1LE A10 2023 Camaro ZL1 1LE M6 2017 Camaro ZL1 M6 2016 Camaro SS M6 w/LT4 (Sold)

01-16-2018, 11:14 AM	#21
Battlezone580 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE, 1969 Nova SS 396 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 790 View My Garage	Great news I'm happy to see ford is coming out with a new GT500! I'm sure it will also be track capable. I picture this car being a GT350R with more technology and power. If the new GT500 could beat the ZL1 1LE around the track I would be highly impressed, and I think its a realistic expectation. __________________ 18 ZL1 1LE\|M6\|Nav\|PDR\|CF Hood\|CF WING\|CF Dash\|Tow Hook\|

01-16-2018, 11:23 AM	#23
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	Come on guys. You know the standard GT500 is not going to be a ZL1 1LE track beater. Now if they come out with an "R" version, all bets are off on that one. I do expect it to give the standard ZL1 a hard time on the track, and for sure be quicker in a straight line. I am excited about this car though. Its a new GT500 with over 700 HP...that in of itself is awesome. But even if it does "only" cost 70 or 75K, to me, the ZL1 is still a bargain which can be had in the low 60s. If Ford had a starting price on this car in the mid to upper 60s, now that would be impressive (more so). I don't see Chevy upping the HP rating on the LT4, and certainly not another 60 - 70 HP to match or beat the GT500. Sure, they could drop the LT5 in there, but you can kiss that low 60K price goodbye if that happened. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

01-16-2018, 11:45 AM	#28
ST1LE Drives: E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 4,496	Damn, this is going to be an awesome car! __________________ SOLD - 2013 1LE - Pat G Spec'd Cam, NPP with 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers with High Flow Cats, Intake w/scoop, Ported Throttle Body, and Apex 1.25" Lowering Springs. J-Rod Built and Matt@FSP Tuned

01-16-2018, 10:07 AM	#16
FringBirdAloha Drives: Pre-production ZL1 M6 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Sunbelt Posts: 531	Precisely why we’ll be seeing the LT5 in the Camaro.

01-16-2018, 10:44 AM	#19
GrimReaperSS Drives: 2001 Onyx Black/Ebony SS. 427/M6 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Sussex, Wi Posts: 509	Waiting to see how many will complain that it has an oversized lower grill just like the ZL1/ZL1 1LE. Or the common complaints these days of "it looks like this car" or "it looks like the bastard child of this car and this car".

01-16-2018, 11:44 AM	#27
dw760 Drives: C3 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Yerintgton NV Posts: 181	Im sure the 2019 GT-500 will be competitive and a great car, other than Ford dealers think the cars are Gold and mark them up $15 to $25K. For that reason alone they can keep it, and i will always own a Camaro SS 1LE or the Zl1. DW