Hydroplaning issues

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Russtl

First of all she was not speeding. Actually she was going just under the speed limit.

Going "to fast for conditions" does not necessarily equate to "speeding". The speed limit could be 75, but if water is pooling on the road (enough to cause hydroplaning), 45 could be "too fast for conditions".

[blakjak55]

This is a little odd. I have to say I don't know if I'd have bought wheels off of a car that had been totaled, mostly for the sake that I couldn't be arsed to take the time to see if they were straight and true. Without looking at the first post, I'll assume you replaced the tires?

I have to think that there's a lot of Camaro's out there on stock equipment that do fine in the rain and wet weather.

Palmer, every time you post I hate you more and I've never even met you.

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by blakjak55

Palmer, every time you post I hate you more and I've never even met you.

Sounds like a personal problem. I suggest you stop reading my posts. Oops... there I go again.

Why, exactly, do you feel this hate for me? Is it because I don't kowtow to those who seek sympathy for something they have done that is so obviously brought about by their own misdoing?

[Dizzy82]

I'm guessing those are P-Zeros, IMHO they are the worst tire for any weather other than 70+ degree heat.

[Phail]

Originally Posted by blakjak55

Palmer, every time you post I hate you more and I've never even met you.

Hate him if you want, but hes 100% accurate.

If I drove the speed limit in Canadian winters all the time I'd have totaled every car I've ever owned.

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by trashmanssd

Nope just a MassHOLE, don't worry we all suffer from it in this region.

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Going "to fast for conditions" does not necessarily equate to "speeding". The speed limit could be 75, but if water is pooling on the road (enough to cause hydroplaning), 45 could be "too fast for conditions".

Originally Posted by blakjak55

This is a little odd. I have to say I don't know if I'd have bought wheels off of a car that had been totaled, mostly for the sake that I couldn't be arsed to take the time to see if they were straight and true. Without looking at the first post, I'll assume you replaced the tires?

I have to think that there's a lot of Camaro's out there on stock equipment that do fine in the rain and wet weather.

Palmer, every time you post I hate you more and I've never even met you.

Are you letting opinions and feelings cloud your judgment? That is the path to the dark side, young padawan.

I like Palmer.

Originally Posted by Dizzy82

I'm guessing those are P-Zeros, IMHO they are the worst tire for any weather other than 70+ degree heat.

They're bad, but not the worst :P

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Phail

Hate him if you want, but hes 100% accurate.

If I drove the speed limit in Canadian winters all the time I'd have totaled every car I've ever owned.

As would most of us. Thank you. There comes a time when common sense and responsibility have to take charge.

[Obzen]

Originally Posted by Dizzy82

What tires was she running on? Wait, you bought these wheels off a previously wrecked camaro?

It would be highly ironic if this is the same set of tires that hydroplaned the last owner into a ditch.

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Splitter

Are you letting opinions and feelings cloud your judgment? That is the path to the dark side, young padawan.

I like Palmer.

Thanks, Splitter. I know I piss off some people now and then, but I just call 'em as I see 'em.

[Squillo]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Thanks, Splitter. I know I piss off some people now and then, but I just call 'em as I see 'em.

This is why I like Palmer too.

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Squillo

This is why I like Palmer too.

Mahalo nui loa!

[Evergreen6]

Originally Posted by Russtl

First of all she was not speeding. Actually she was going just under the speed limit. She had a vehicle in front and behind her. She was the only car that lost control. We live in the northwest and rain is part of our daily lives up here. We've hydroplaned several times and the standard practice is let off on the gas and definitely do not use the breaks! When she hit the water patch she said the steering wheel froze up and the tires felt like they were breaking independently and the car wouldn't allow her to take control.

At first I gave her a hard time and chocked it up to responding improperly to the situation. She assured me that this car responded differently than our other car (That all have traction control) Also, when i recently purchased a new set of wheels from a local guy. I asked why he was selling the wheels and he showed my a picture of his totaled 2014 Camaro 2/SS. He had the same situation when he hydroplaned and he was driving 50 mph. Then he showed me a pic of his friends 2014 camaro that he totaled under the same circumstances just a few months earlier. They both said that the car acted erratically when it started to hydroplane.

Anyhow, It appears something may be wrong or have a glitch with the traction control on the 2014.

It sounds like the car tried to do its job given available traction (not much). The feeling of wheels being braked independently was real-- that's what Stability Control does. If the steering felt funny, that's why. Steering against wheels that are braking independently where one may have traction and the other not--steering isn't going to be smooth, and I've felt the same.

What other vehicle are you comparing the Camaro to in your post?

I agree with Palmer even though he's kind of grouchy today...50mph isn't legally speeding given the posted speed, but that's still a lot of speed when hitting standing water. Sometimes it's unexpected and really tough to avoid if there's other traffic.

[Vroom_vroom]

Rolled a vert' and walked away. Very impressive

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

This is nice. I, for one, have been "going too fast for conditions" (before I learned to respect the car and the conditions), but not so fast that I couldn't avoid a wreck. It does take skill to control an otherwise uncontrollable (to you normal guys) situation. And you would be correct that in 45 years of driving, I have never had an accident that was "my fault" (knock on wood).

So first you chastise us "just slow down guys" and then imply that OP's wife made a mistake in attempting to gain control. By what means do you suppose that would be? Perhaps going too fast to be able to respond correctly? Make up your mind.

I did make up my mind pro driver guy. I am surprised with your superior level of talent that I should have to explain this to you, but I will my fellow Camaro brother. You see, speed is not the only thing that can cause an accident. There are things that happen that older folks like you and I (not trying to say I have your immense skill level as you so often state, but like you, I am no spring chicken) may have acquired a skill set for that others may not have, and no matter what the speed (and let me repeat that since some of us older guys can't hear or see so well) NO MATTER WHAT THE SPEED, the driver may not be able to handle the situation. So to recap, I feel that the accident the OP's wife had was more a result of something she did incorrectly (that may have had nothing to do with speed) than, as OP had asked in his original post, a result of something that the car did through traction control or stabilitrak. Is there some speed that she could have been moving at that would have prevented the hydroplaning? Sure there is, but is it also possible that travel at that speed may have caused many other problems for other drivers? You bet. Slowing down is not always the answer, but then again I am sure you knew that. My comments were meant to be a polite way to suggest that she my need some more instruction to improve as driver, but I guess I handled that all wrong.