11-15-2023, 11:30 AM | #1359 |
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You think catalytic converter theft is bad. Just wait until the copper scrappers start hitting the apartment complexes in about 10 years to relieve the charging stations of their cables, lol.
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11-15-2023, 03:00 PM | #1360 |
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BAH! ...let the poor people settle for fee based fast charging. They can't afford EVs anyways.
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11-15-2023, 03:05 PM | #1361 |
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So what do theses brands have in common?
Ford, Toyota, Chevrolet, Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Hyundai.
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11-16-2023, 01:25 AM | #1363 |
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Yes you’re right, I agree with you
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11-16-2023, 07:29 AM | #1364 | |
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The answer the judges are looking for is that those are the only brands that sell more vehicles than Tesla in the US in 2023.
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11-16-2023, 07:43 AM | #1365 |
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Let's talk rebate again. Am I reading this right that in the new year the $7500 just comes off the vehicle price at sale versus off your tax liability (assuming it's 7,500 or more) when you file?
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11-16-2023, 08:29 AM | #1366 | |
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1st the car has to qualify. Many will NOT qualify. Some will qualify for half the incentive. Some will qualify for the entire incentive.
2nd, the buyer(s) must qualify within income thresholds established by filing status.
There are two differences moving from 2023 to 2024. In 2023, the buyer had to buy the vehicle, file taxes, and apply for the incentive as a refund. In 2024 the buyer can assign the incentive to the deal, assuming all the qualifications listed above are met. The requirements for materials sourcing had a lower threshold for 2023. For example, in 2023 Tesla Model 3 and Model Y are eligible for the full refund of $7,500. But since some of their Anode Active Material and Cathode Active Material are sourced from countries that do not have FTA with the US, they don’t qualify for that half of the incentive come January 1, 2024. Big factor in the timing of my purchase.
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11-16-2023, 08:48 AM | #1367 | |
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First, the cars have to be made in the US, Canada or Mexico. That brings those jobs and jobs at key suppliers here. Second, all the requirements for material sourcing are positioned to make certain China doesn’t benefit from the growth of EV manufacturing in North America. There are other areas in the IRA that help offset the cost of building capacity for materials processing, battery cell manufacture, and battery pack assembly. Again, more jobs involved in the construction of these plants as well as the staffing.
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Can a lower income buyer immediately resell it to someone who doesn't qualify?... Just curious... |
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11-16-2023, 09:33 AM | #1369 | |
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If i buy a car without a rebate and flip it around for sale immediately, will I lose the full $7500 off the top even though I never received it? (answer: YES, the goverment rebate is factored into the resale price) |
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11-16-2023, 10:40 AM | #1370 | |
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That being said, i'll take the $7,500 if we buy an EV since it was my money confiscated anyway.
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11-17-2023, 06:46 AM | #1372 | |
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If you compare brands GM outsells Tesla by a boatload.
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