do you regret not getting a 1le over a ss?

[TxBandit911]

Originally Posted by david06851313

I'm not quoting it cause its a long reply but I am not trading up or trading in etc?? Idk where you got that idea but I'm not trading a thing. Just seeing opinions. Not out to impress anyone but myself with the car. Ok and maybe my 4 year old niece but really that's it.

Then that's all you need to know! You know what one you like, now go get it!!!

[shawn18]

This is from the original press release in 2012. It kinda gives you an idea of what the 1LE package is. The lap times for the car are readily available online. It isn't a straight line car and never has been since its introduction in 1988. The great thing is that the handling is taken care of from the factory for the most part..So if you wanna go faster straight line , that can be obtained also by doing some of the same mods as any other SS. If you wish.



The Camaro 1LE package was introduced in 1988, inspired by Camaro’s involvement in Pro-Am road racing.

For 2013, the 1LE package is offered only on 1SS and 2SS coupe models, featuring a 6.2L LS3 V-8, which is rated at 426 horsepower (318 kW) and 420 lb-ft of torque (569 Nm). In addition, 1LE is only available with a six-speed manual transmission.

While the Camaro SS features a Tremec TR6060-M10 for all-around performance, the Camaro 1LE features an exclusive Tremec TR6060-MM6. Paired with a numerically higher 3.91 final-drive ratio, the close-ratio gearing of the transmission is tuned for road-racing performance. As with the ZL1, the 1LE transmission features a standard air-to-liquid cooling system for track use.

The 1LE also features exclusive, monotube rear dampers instead of the twin-tube dampers on SS models. The new hardware allowed engineers to tune the 1LE suspension to focus on optimal body-motion control while preserving much of the ride quality and wheel-motion control of the Camaro SS.

Other changes to optimize the 1LE for track-day use include:

Larger, 27-mm solid front stabilizer bar, and 28-mm solid rear stabilizer bar for improved body control
Higher-capacity rear-axle half shafts to cope with increased levels of traction
Strut tower brace for improved steering feel and response
ZL1-based 20 x 10-inch front and 20 x 11-inch aluminum wheels
285/35ZR20 Goodyear Eagle Supercar G:2 tires front and rear (identical to the front tires for ZL1)
ZL1 wheel bearings, toe links and rear shock mounts for improved on-track performance
ZL1 high-capacity fuel pump and additional fuel pickups for improved fuel delivery during high-cornering

Visually, the 1LE package for 2013 is distinguished by its matte-black hood, front splitter and rear spoiler – as well as the 10-spoke ZL1-based wheels, which are finished in black. The functional front splitter and rear spoiler contribute to the car’s on-track performance by helping to reduce aerodynamic lift at high speeds.

Inside, the 1LE package incorporates the ZL1’s flat-bottom steering wheel, trimmed in sueded-microfiber and designed for easier heel-and-toe driving on the racetrack. The quick-acting, short-throw shifter from the ZL1 is also trimmed in sueded microfiber.

[EmeryZ28]

#9- ZL1/2:52.38
#24- 1LE/2:58.34
#74- Standard SS/ 3:09.50

I am not disagreeing but that blows my mind! 11 second improvement with just better tires, sways, shocks, and gear ratio, then adding 125HP only gets you 6 seconds??? was the same person driving each car?

edit: so I checked that link. the 1LE was driven by a "chevrolet test driver" in 2012 and it doesnt say who the Standard SS was driven by, or if it was an L99 or LS3 car just that it happened in 2010.

also the ZL1 is on there twice, both in 2012, once driven by Aaron Link and once driven by Car and Driver and there is a difference of 5 seconds. So obviously these numbers are nice, but not very significant seeing there was no consistency with weather, track condition, year, time, driver etc.

[trashmanssd]

Originally Posted by EmeryZ28

I am not disagreeing but that blows my mind! 11 second improvement with just better tires, sways, shocks, and gear ratio, then adding 125HP only gets you 6 seconds??? was the same person driving each car?

edit: so I checked that link. the 1LE was driven by a "chevrolet test driver" in 2012 and it doesnt say who the Standard SS was driven by, or if it was an L99 or LS3 car just that it happened in 2010.

also the ZL1 is on there twice, both in 2012, once driven by Aaron Link and once driven by Car and Driver and there is a difference of 5 seconds. So obviously these numbers are nice, but not very significant seeing there was no consistency with weather, track condition, year, time, driver etc.

1Le Has a 400 pound weight advantage over the ZL1. The new Z28 will have about and 80 HP disadvantage against the ZL1 but will put down better lap times. It will have a 500 pound advantage over the ZL1 and a more track focused set up.

I guess they only way to make a perfect comparison would be to run them at the same time on the same track with 3 clones of Randy Probst.

[Wizard1183]

Maybe when a 1LE looks as good as mine below.

[PalmerGA]

No regrets, for two reasons.
* I have no plans to track race my car, so the added features not needed.
* I wanted an automatic.

Very happy with my decision.

[thkfast]

I don't regret not getting a 1LE.

For me it was simple.

1. I promised myself I would never again get an ALL BLACK interior.
2. $3,500 for performance handling upgrades I don't think I need - $5,500 if you add the Recaro seat option.

But I admit, the 1LE looks mean!

[david06851313]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

No regrets, for two reasons.
* I have no plans to track race my car, so the added features not needed.
* I wanted an automatic.

Very happy with my decision.

I won't buy a auto either way so that doesn't matter. A manual is just fun lol. Gonna go tomorrow if im back in ga or this weekend and talk to them.

[david06851313]

Originally Posted by shawn18

This is from the original press release in 2012. It kinda gives you an idea of what the 1LE package is. The lap times for the car are readily available online. It isn't a straight line car and never has been since its introduction in 1988. The great thing is that the handling is taken care of from the factory for the most part..So if you wanna go faster straight line , that can be obtained also by doing some of the same mods as any other SS. If you wish.



The Camaro 1LE package was introduced in 1988, inspired by Camaro’s involvement in Pro-Am road racing.

For 2013, the 1LE package is offered only on 1SS and 2SS coupe models, featuring a 6.2L LS3 V-8, which is rated at 426 horsepower (318 kW) and 420 lb-ft of torque (569 Nm). In addition, 1LE is only available with a six-speed manual transmission.

While the Camaro SS features a Tremec TR6060-M10 for all-around performance, the Camaro 1LE features an exclusive Tremec TR6060-MM6. Paired with a numerically higher 3.91 final-drive ratio, the close-ratio gearing of the transmission is tuned for road-racing performance. As with the ZL1, the 1LE transmission features a standard air-to-liquid cooling system for track use.

The 1LE also features exclusive, monotube rear dampers instead of the twin-tube dampers on SS models. The new hardware allowed engineers to tune the 1LE suspension to focus on optimal body-motion control while preserving much of the ride quality and wheel-motion control of the Camaro SS.

Other changes to optimize the 1LE for track-day use include:

Larger, 27-mm solid front stabilizer bar, and 28-mm solid rear stabilizer bar for improved body control
Higher-capacity rear-axle half shafts to cope with increased levels of traction
Strut tower brace for improved steering feel and response
ZL1-based 20 x 10-inch front and 20 x 11-inch aluminum wheels
285/35ZR20 Goodyear Eagle Supercar G:2 tires front and rear (identical to the front tires for ZL1)
ZL1 wheel bearings, toe links and rear shock mounts for improved on-track performance
ZL1 high-capacity fuel pump and additional fuel pickups for improved fuel delivery during high-cornering

Visually, the 1LE package for 2013 is distinguished by its matte-black hood, front splitter and rear spoiler – as well as the 10-spoke ZL1-based wheels, which are finished in black. The functional front splitter and rear spoiler contribute to the car’s on-track performance by helping to reduce aerodynamic lift at high speeds.

Inside, the 1LE package incorporates the ZL1’s flat-bottom steering wheel, trimmed in sueded-microfiber and designed for easier heel-and-toe driving on the racetrack. The quick-acting, short-throw shifter from the ZL1 is also trimmed in sueded microfiber.

Thank you. Seems to worth it to me for all the extra stuff. No way you could do It for 3500 yourself. If we csn get the payment right I'll be taking home a 1le.

[david06851313]

Originally Posted by thkfast

I don't regret not getting a 1LE.

For me it was simple.

1. I promised myself I would never again get an ALL BLACK interior.
2. $3,500 for performance handling upgrades I don't think I need - $5,500 if you add the Recaro seat option.

But I admit, the 1LE looks mean!

What's wrong with all black? Lol

[shook sez]

Originally Posted by EmeryZ28

You can barely handle a keyboard, so no wonder parking seems to be a tough task for you.

well then, I've apologized a couple tmes for my typing, but you guys can't
resist the personal attacks becausE I don't share the same permagrin you do.

truth is the last stroke I had 3 yrs. AGO blew out the right hemisphere of my brain, leaving me with no sensation in my formerly dominant left hand.
when I type the letter a sometimes I inadvertently hit the caps lock and don't feel it. again

my left hand does not affect my ability to park. that is the fat car and blind spots
so, all of you young and full of life kids, enjoy it while you have it.

[david06851313]

You bought a convertible and complained about backing up to park. Did you not look out the back window when test driving? A convertible will never be easy to see out of. Sorry about the stroke also.

[StoutSnout]

Originally Posted by trashmanssd

1Le Has a 400 pound weight advantage over the ZL1. The new Z28 will have about and 80 HP disadvantage against the ZL1 but will put down better lap times. It will have a 500 pound advantage over the ZL1 and a more track focused set up.

I guess they only way to make a perfect comparison would be to run them at the same time on the same track with 3 clones of Randy Probst.

4,120 - 3,875 = 245

That's not quite a 400 pound difference. It's not even a 250 pound difference.

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...ure_092513.pdf

[trashmanssd]

Originally Posted by StoutSnout

4,120 - 3,875 = 245

That's not quite a 400 pound difference. It's not even a 250 pound difference.

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...ure_092513.pdf

Sorry I read it in one my magazines think they said close to 4200lbs and close to 3800 pounds and that the Z28 would be 100 less then the SS. I used fuzzy math now all I can do is