End of our Hobby... End of an Era...

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by WoodBoss

I lived in NY until 16 years ago, nice country but the city pulls that state down. I rarely go back and don't miss it, my relative tell me about all the new rules and restrictions for everything and it's common place there now. Sucks to live in NY !!! Glad I don't have to anymore.

Word.....

[Demon War Horse]

Originally Posted by Ryanbabz71

From my understanding only the diesel portion of it has passed and not the entire proposal because they have added to it


Ryan

An article on Fox news made it sound like it may be a moot point, but I hope you are right and that there is still time.

[Jasper]

Glad to be in Canada for once. It'll be 20yrs before that gets passed up here and then my car will be a "classic" and no longer required to pass emissions.

J

[LT1Zob]

Originally Posted by vinman

I'll be the guy to mod the pod, lol

[ChocoTaco369]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

California does all kinds of BS the rest of the country thinks is downright stupid. Nothing California does should be used as an example for the rest of the country.

This line of thinking is dangerous.

If anything, California leads the way for the rest of the country. Liberalism has perpetuated our public education and university system - when you are a small minority, recruit by mass brainwashing and grow your base each generation. Eventually, it becomes accepted as people grow more and more dependent on the system and less and less able to reason critically and develop their own opinions. When people hear something insane over and over again, they become desensitized to it until it no longer sounds crazy, it is commonplace.

Something being adopted in California is a ticking time bomb for the rest of the country to adopt it. Doing nothing and burying your head in the sand is a bad plan.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by flyer08

If you cant drive your race car....race your street car

You can live in your Race Car, but you can't race your House!

[Dragonman]

Since I lived in SoCal for many years in my youth and watched it happen, I want to ask you all this question?

Who, or what, tells the governments what to do? If you answer "The people" please think again. Follow the money.

[Demon War Horse]

We the People, are pissed off!

[CreeperRS]

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

This line of thinking is dangerous.

If anything, California leads the way for the rest of the country. Liberalism has perpetuated our public education and university system - when you are a small minority, recruit by mass brainwashing and grow your base each generation. Eventually, it becomes accepted as people grow more and more dependent on the system and less and less able to reason critically and develop their own opinions. When people hear something insane over and over again, they become desensitized to it until it no longer sounds crazy, it is commonplace.

Something being adopted in California is a ticking time bomb for the rest of the country to adopt it. Doing nothing and burying your head in the sand is a bad plan.

Right on.

[pancherj]

If the EPA and elected officials are willing to gut an entire business sector and nearly bankrupt states that depend on that sector (COAL), don't think they are not willing to do exactly what this EPA mandate eposes. As mentioned above...with the government, brains are often optional and if there is a brain it has probably been infected by a disease called liberalism!

[CreeperRS]

More like Moronism.

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by CreeperRS

More like Moronism.

Boom! Bumper!

So that petition is getting recognition all over Twitter even. It's kinda cool, within a few hours of me seeing it the number of signatures jumped 20k I think.

[guerrillakilla13]

Originally Posted by ghosted

I don't remember the 70s, because I wasn't born yet, but the 70s almost killed the muscle car too. The gas crunch, coupled with hippie environmentalists led to a search for efficiency and clean emissions. Only in the past decade have we started to see the return of the muscle car. You can't kill the muscle car, nor can you kill the free market....but I think the biggest hurdles are behind us.

Originally Posted by motorhead

It should be used as a what not to do. We really should grand them their independence or rather force them to become their own country. They are starting to infect other parts of the country with their sickness.

On topic, the EPA has already back peddled on the topic anyhow. You guys need to read the other thread.

Originally Posted by Dmpsix

I just recently visited my father and drove out to Cali (Orange County) back in August for 3 weeks.

California SUCKS, the gas prices are terrible, I5 highway SUCKS, 65 mph speed limit... REALLY? Sorry, I'm used to it being 75 on average over here in TEXAS.

Emission laws suck, the highway patrol are total jerks, the traffic is just horrible, everyone drives like a Grandma over there in there Teslas... I can go on and on and on about how bad California is.

So like everyone else said, just because your state sucks, doesn't mean ours has to. Over here in the great state of Texas, none of the above applies.

"The rest of you can go to Hell, and I will go to Texas."

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

This line of thinking is dangerous.

If anything, California leads the way for the rest of the country. Liberalism has perpetuated our public education and university system - when you are a small minority, recruit by mass brainwashing and grow your base each generation. Eventually, it becomes accepted as people grow more and more dependent on the system and less and less able to reason critically and develop their own opinions. When people hear something insane over and over again, they become desensitized to it until it no longer sounds crazy, it is commonplace.

Something being adopted in California is a ticking time bomb for the rest of the country to adopt it. Doing nothing and burying your head in the sand is a bad plan.

I'm glad, and a little surprised, that most people on here agree California wasn't always like that. Like I've said previously, my grandparents have been begging me to come visit them in Pleasonton but i'm just too afraid of A. my camaro being stolen, B. somebody crashing into me, and C. me getting pulled over ALL THE TIME because of how loud my car is. Point is that yes, if we do nothing than they will lead the way to our downfall. Ultimately its the white house that's been screwing us lately. Way too blue for my taste.

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by guerrillakilla13

I'm glad, and a little surprised, that most people on here agree California wasn't always like that. Like I've said previously, my grandparents have been begging me to come visit them in Pleasonton but i'm just too afraid of A. my camaro being stolen, B. somebody crashing into me, and C. me getting pulled over ALL THE TIME because of how loud my car is. Point is that yes, if we do nothing than they will lead the way to our downfall. Ultimately its the white house that's been screwing us lately. Way too blue for my taste.

Screw your car, go see the Grandparents. They have a shelf life, your car does not. The car can be replaced, they can not. You will regret this is you don't do this.