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Old 08-11-2017, 09:36 AM   #43
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I would think a V8 LS then have ala carte would be a popular option.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:26 AM   #44
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I don't see much content they could remove from the SS to make it cheaper.... I think the lights need to remain the same. I don't want to see SS's rolling around with the cheap projector headlight housing.

What I could see done is to take the staggered summer wheel off along with the 8" infotainment screen along with the brembo's and make that into an RS package and maybe give it the 18" LT wheels and brakes and all season tires as standard equipment.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:32 AM   #45
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That's assuming the 5.3 is any cheaper to build than the 6.2, which I don't see why it would be.
Had thought about the 5.3 too as a match to the R/T 5.7 Challenger trim line. But unless it was matched with a lot of other cuts to a 1SS base package, cannot imagine the msrp difference would add up to much of a savings. Then the obvious debate about resale numbers vs a 6.2 SS variant would follow.

Curiously wondering if a 375hp 5.3 matched to a 8/10 speed auto would net higher mpg? While that is not the sole focus of a sports car. Some buyers may factor it in as well as aiding GM in meeting CAFE standards. Possibly lower insurance costs? But more than likely splitting hairs at this stage with that line of thinking.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:02 AM   #46
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I would think a V8 LS then have ala carte would be a popular option.
Yeah, it's done with a V-6 option...

http://www.chevrolet.com/byo-vc/clie.../camaro/config

2018 1LS...........$26,900

2018 1LS w/V6...$28,395

2018 1LS w/V8...$30,000-$32,000....????

2018 1SS...........$37,995

I would think there is plenty of wiggle room in between the 1SS (38K) and the 1LS (27K) for a much less expensive V8 option other than the 1SS.


The V-6 1LE is $32,895..., a $4,500 1LE option, which is basically an SS with V6....It takes another 5K to go to the 1SS price....

Leave it an LS, non 1LE, add 5K for the V8, and you're at $32K for a V-8 LS..

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Old 08-11-2017, 11:21 AM   #47
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I would bet that the 5.3 doesn't cost more than the 3.6. Call it "327 LS". It's close enough to 327 cubes, the ls7 was actually a 428.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:23 AM   #48
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Yes...

The Camaro SS does come with what the optional Mustang Performance Package is, standard.

No Brembos on base gt.
The SS comes standard with 6 piston brembos?
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:33 AM   #49
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I could definitely see LS V8 selling.
Cut the RS package
  • 20" 5-split-spoke premium Gray-painted, machined-face, aluminum wheels
  • High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps with LED signature
  • LED tail lamps
  • RS-specific grilles
  • Decklid-mounted lip spoiler
  • Body-color fin-style antenna
Cut summer only tires, do a cheap radio,.. Should approach a $3000 savings. Hell, I would even go for a vinyl flooring !!
Then watch most people who go for the LS V8 order the RS package.

The reason GM made the RS package standard on the 1SS is because the take rate of the RS package on the 5th gen 1 and 2SS was over 80%. That translates into more expensive production costs and lower assembly line efficiency to build those 20% without it.

It's a good idea in theory but I don't think that's going to be what GM would cut. Too many people want the RS package on Camaro SSs to make it an option.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:41 AM   #50
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I had a devil of a time finding a stripper 1SS. I did NOT want a sunroof ,as it cut into my available headroom and I'm 6'-3". Add in nearly a grand to the MSRP too.

Same with the stupid NAV option....$500 for something I will never use. EVERY car I found in Montana was overloaded with options I did not want. $55K cars on a few lots.

I wish I could have spec'd leather seats, without the 2SS package.

I think ANYTHING allowing one to option out a car as the BUYER wishes will help.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:45 AM   #51
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The SS comes standard with 6 piston brembos?
Congratulations, you listed one part the Mutstang has on the Camaro.. Keep in mind that rear brakes on Mustang are also single piston, where Camaro is 4 all around.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:01 PM   #52
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Maybe now people will stop b****ing and moaning about the price. Oh wait... Now, they'll complain that it doesn't have X or Y thing standard. Good move on GM though, more options for customer to purchase a vehicle. While customers always want things, in reality it might not be the case, hopefully it won't be the case for a more stripped v8. Like 5th gen z28s. Great car and all but if you can still find brand spanking new Z28s, it didn't sell like people claim it did :P.

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The SS comes standard with 6 piston brembos?
No, the SS trims come with 4 pistons. SS/ZL1 1LE's come with 6 piston standard.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:18 PM   #53
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Guys...just drop the 5.3 talk. Not going to happen. This is about reducing content that is already on the car. Don't expect anything new. (except for a facelift and likely a 10 speed auto for 2019)

Many people seem to be forgetting the fact that offering packages saves money. So giving us more individual options is likely not happening either...except that going forward...a 1SS may have some package that includes the things currently standard on a 1SS.

Here's what will likely be done:
- RS package no longer standard. Use the same headlamps/taillamps, that come on a standard LT model. LED daytime lamps will remain. Use 19" wheels and cheaper all-season tires.
- 8" drivers screen and 8" touch screen no longer standard in the 1SS. Use base LT stuff.

I think the above could pull around a grand to $1,500 off the base 1SS price or more

Other stuff, but less likely:
- SS sized Brembos not standard. But I just don't see that happening. The Camaro SS has big power. It needs those brakes.
- Not really sure what else....
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:29 PM   #54
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I'm fine with the 1SS price, I don't think cutting down the price will help much. But the current 1SS configuration is perfect.
While I see a benefit from offering a more stripped base SS model, I agree with you. The 1SS config is near perfect for me. But if I could have ordered premium audio I would have. That annoys me. You can on the 1LT, but not the 1SS....what gives? (at least on the 5th gen it was that way)
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:30 PM   #55
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Blind Spot Monitor, A Safety Item, Should Be Standard

...on a car with such lousy visability. I bought a 1LT. To get this feature that should be standard, it would cost an additional $8,000! Where is the value??
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:32 PM   #56
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The 5.3 can't be nearly as expensive as the 6.2 etc..I understand adding an engine opt isn't the standard, but they could ditch the v6 for the 5.3 and get similar performance. Push the T4 and now the middle engine can be easily and cheaply modded and not maxed out like the v6 is..I know not my original idea but I'm on board..
The 5.3 may be slightly cheaper for the pistons and crankshaft but everything else would be similar to the 6.2.
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