Since when is a 300+ hp muscle car considered settling? - Page 3 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

trudawg660 · 06-13-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by attymf

I dunno guys.....400+ HP and TQ. I am reading this thread but cant imagine anything but a V8.

can always add a turbo or a supercharger.......

KJS · 06-13-2009, 09:14 PM

Unless they are a Camaro fanatic I don't tell them its a V6.When they ask, I respond "Now, what do you think?" Open the hood, and 99% of them staring at that huge plastic engine cover couldn't tell if it was a 6, 8 or 12 cylinder.
Start it up, point to the twin exhausts, they'll be blown away.
Best part is the only way anyone could tell besides the lack of the SS badges is the missing non-functional mail slot.
So actually the 6 was really the only model to buy! Saved me me some cash, and will be saving me some more every time I fill it up. And oh by the way, since only 20% of the first year Camaro's are V6's guess which ones will be the "rare" ones down the road, and the smart move when gas hits $4.00 a gallon again?!?
"I dunno guys.....300+ HP and great gas milage and the looks of an 8. I am reading this thread but cant imagine anything but a V6."
No way I would buy a V8 when the V6 is an all around best buy

Tsudy · 06-13-2009, 09:16 PM

A coworker was giving me crap about ordering the V6 as well. Said if you're going to drop 30+ grand on a car, you might as well go "all out" and buy completely top of the line.

My argument for that was it's going to be my daily driver so the gas mileage will be great as well as the lesser amount of insurance. If it wasn't my daily driver, I'd probably be getting a V8, though =P

kutch720 · 06-13-2009, 09:24 PM

Who cares. I have the V6 and I could give a rats ass what people think. Because when they say this or that I just look at there car and say well nice Camry buddy. The other day a guy wanted to race his Mustang that had alot of work done to it. I was like nope thats OK. I want people to see a masterpiece when I drive by. lol. Point is V6 or not it is an amazing CAR. Enjoy it for yourself and nobody else, except if you have family then share a little. I am enjoying mine. In fact I think I am going to go for a ride.

GothamCamaro · 06-13-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GMtothecore

...until I pull up next to you and my exhaust shakes their skirts right off.

J/K....I totaly agree with you all. I'm getting an SS, but the 2LT is a hell a lot of "bang for your buck"!

Hey when they get mad that their skirts flew off, I'll just point at your Camaro.

Quote:

Originally Posted by attymf

I dunno guys.....400+ HP and TQ. I am reading this thread but cant imagine anything but a V8.

That's funny, my wallet doesn't have imaginary additional funds in it to get a V8 but it sees the V6 just fine.

SSOOCH · 06-13-2009, 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=Thrillz;582055] i grew up in the 80'sQUOTE]

The problem is that it's not the 80's anymore. And most every sedan out there is getting close to 300hp. My 08 Lil HHR SS is getting 260, if I drop the stage II turbo kit in it from GM performance parts (that doesn't void my warranty) it's rated at 300...that's a HHR! Same thing with the Cobalt. Here's some more 2009 Model examples:

Chevrolet Impala SS - 305hp
Toyota Camry - 268hp
Honda Accord - 271hp
Nissan Maxima - 291hp
Nissan Altima - 270hp
Mazda 3 Speed - 263hp
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo - 291
Hyundai Genesis - 300hp and an additional option to get 375hp V8! (a f***ing Hyundai)

Sorry but 300hp is just not what it was. In this day and age the 300hp arena in a car is just average....sorry.

GothamCamaro · 06-13-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SSOOCH

The problem is that it's not the 80's anymore. And most every sedan out there is getting close to 300hp. My 08 Lil HHR SS is getting 260, if I drop the stage II turbo kit in it from GM performance parts (that doesn't void my warranty) it's rated at 300...that's a HHR! Same thing with the Cobalt. Here's some more 2009 Model examples:

Chevrolet Impala SS - 305hp
Toyota Camry - 268hp
Honda Accord - 271hp
Nissan Maxima - 291hp
Nissan Altima - 270hp
Mazda 3 Speed - 263hp
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo - 291
Hyundai Genesis - 300hp and an additional option to get 375hp V8! (a f***ing Hyundai)

Sorry but 300hp is just not what it was. In this day and age the 300hp arena in a car is just average....sorry.

You're apologizing for me getting a kick ass V6?

The 5th Gen is far from average, V8 or V6 my friend, in the over all package.

kutch720 · 06-13-2009, 09:39 PM

The Impala SS has a V8

SSOOCH · 06-13-2009, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kutch720

The Impala SS has a V8

And it's a family sedan......Look, I'm on your guys side, I'm just telling you why people are giving you s***!!

*The_Blur* · 06-13-2009, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSOOCH

The problem is that it's not the 80's anymore. And most every sedan out there is getting close to 300hp. My 08 Lil HHR SS is getting 260, if I drop the stage II turbo kit in it from GM performance parts (that doesn't void my warranty) it's rated at 300...that's a HHR! Same thing with the Cobalt. Here's some more 2009 Model examples:

Chevrolet Impala SS - 305hp
Toyota Camry - 268hp
Honda Accord - 271hp
Nissan Maxima - 291hp
Nissan Altima - 270hp
Mazda 3 Speed - 263hp
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo - 291
Hyundai Genesis - 300hp and an additional option to get 375hp V8! (a f***ing Hyundai)

Sorry but 300hp is just not what it was. In this day and age the 300hp arena in a car is just average....sorry.

Historically, the flagship cars would have to fight one another. In this case, the Camaro SS should only be packing 300 hp. The Camaro is 100 hp past its competition. The V6 is running with the top of the competition. In other words, if these cars are the whipped cream and the lower trims are the shake, the Camaro V6 is the cherry on top, and the Camaro SS is the person eating the whole damned thing.

THE EVIL TW1N · 06-13-2009, 10:02 PM

I do agree that the v6 is above average, class leading to be correct (overall, but the car has plenty of flaws) with it's peppy engine. But the v8 is worth the premium and the v6 will always be in it's shadow, and rightfully so.

kutch720 · 06-13-2009, 10:07 PM

What about the Monte SS when it was out V8 303HP, same as the Impala SS. Just saying that the V8 can be a joke too. Not the Camaro V8 not by any means. The mustang gt isn't that great. Just because it is a V8 does not mean that it will be fast. Hell there are 4 bangers out there that would beat the crap out of alot of cars. V6 or V8. Regardless there is always faster. Whatever you have under the hood.

mikenmar · 06-13-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

The v6 is settling when the v8 is offered. No way around it.

I don't get this. You can always get a more powerful car. By your logic, don't you feel like you "settled" for a V8? You could get a V12 viper, right?

Some biologists recently did an interesting experiment. They would put two monkeys side-by-side in two cages. They would feed them a normal diet of monkey food, and both the monkeys were happy.

Then, one day, they would start feeding one of the monkeys a special treat -- like chocolate, or something sweet. The other monkey, who didn't get the treat, would see this. He'd get enraged, and fling his regular old monkey food out of the cage at the researchers.

Humans seem to be driven by the same desire: If somebody else has something better than you, you can't be happy with what you have. You're perfectly happy with what you have if everybody else has the same thing, but if someone else has something better than you, you can no longer be happy.

I guess we're just monkeys sometimes...

RedRaider · 06-13-2009, 11:10 PM

I ordered a 2LT / RS. I am pumped about soon owning a car with all that equipment and power for under $32K after TTL. If you have $40K to spend, and don't mind the added gas expense, I highly recommend the 2SS. I'll probably pick one up when I retire in 20 years!

06-13-2009, 09:14 PM	#30
KJS Drives: '10 RJT,'95&'14 Vette Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cut Throat, NY Posts: 1,723 View My Garage	Unless they are a Camaro fanatic I don't tell them its a V6.When they ask, I respond "Now, what do you think?" Open the hood, and 99% of them staring at that huge plastic engine cover couldn't tell if it was a 6, 8 or 12 cylinder. Start it up, point to the twin exhausts, they'll be blown away. Best part is the only way anyone could tell besides the lack of the SS badges is the missing non-functional mail slot. So actually the 6 was really the only model to buy! Saved me me some cash, and will be saving me some more every time I fill it up. And oh by the way, since only 20% of the first year Camaro's are V6's guess which ones will be the "rare" ones down the road, and the smart move when gas hits $4.00 a gallon again?!? *"I dunno guys.....300+ HP and great gas milage and the looks of an 8. I am reading this thread but cant imagine anything but a V6."* No way I would buy a V8 when the V6 is an all around best buy __________________ *"As ye sow, so shall ye reap" - Me* Mine at sunset

06-13-2009, 09:16 PM	#31
Tsudy Drives: 2010 2LT/RS ABM Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 208	A coworker was giving me crap about ordering the V6 as well. Said if you're going to drop 30+ grand on a car, you might as well go "all out" and buy completely top of the line. My argument for that was it's going to be my daily driver so the gas mileage will be great as well as the lesser amount of insurance. If it wasn't my daily driver, I'd probably be getting a V8, though =P __________________ ABM, 2LT, RS+Polished, Automatic, Sunroof, Black Interior, White Rally Stripes 0000: 06/06/09 (order placed with dealer) Country Chevrolet 1100: 06/08/09 (preliminary order accepted) #NKMWTD 2000: 09/09/09 (order accepted by GM) 2500: 09/09/09 (order preferenced) 3000: 09/14/09 (order accepted by production control) TPW 09/28/09 3300: 09/20/09 (order scheduled for production) 3400: 09/23/09 (order broadcast) 3800: 10/01/09 (order produced) 4000: 10/01/09 (available to ship) 4200: 10/02/09 (shipped) 5000: 10/15/09 (delivered to dealership) 6000: 10/15/09 (delivered to customer)

06-13-2009, 09:36 PM	#34
SSOOCH Camaro SL,UTs Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 7,358 View My Garage	[QUOTE=Thrillz;582055] i grew up in the 80'sQUOTE] The problem is that it's not the 80's anymore. And most every sedan out there is getting close to 300hp. My 08 Lil HHR SS is getting 260, if I drop the stage II turbo kit in it from GM performance parts (that doesn't void my warranty) it's rated at 300...that's a HHR! Same thing with the Cobalt. Here's some more 2009 Model examples: Chevrolet Impala SS - 305hp Toyota Camry - 268hp Honda Accord - 271hp Nissan Maxima - 291hp Nissan Altima - 270hp Mazda 3 Speed - 263hp Mitsubishi Lancer Evo - 291 Hyundai Genesis - 300hp and an additional option to get 375hp V8! (a f***ing Hyundai) Sorry but 300hp is just not what it was. In this day and age the 300hp arena in a car is just average....sorry. __________________

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06-13-2009, 09:24 PM	#32
kutch720 Drives: Camaro 1LT RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 353 View My Garage	Who cares. I have the V6 and I could give a rats ass what people think. Because when they say this or that I just look at there car and say well nice Camry buddy. The other day a guy wanted to race his Mustang that had alot of work done to it. I was like nope thats OK. I want people to see a masterpiece when I drive by. lol. Point is V6 or not it is an amazing CAR. Enjoy it for yourself and nobody else, except if you have family then share a little. I am enjoying mine. In fact I think I am going to go for a ride.

06-13-2009, 09:39 PM	#36
kutch720 Drives: Camaro 1LT RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 353 View My Garage	The Impala SS has a V8

06-13-2009, 10:02 PM	#39
THE EVIL TW1N Banned Drives: 2003 Cobra Convertible Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: CA Posts: 2,925	I do agree that the v6 is above average, class leading to be correct (overall, but the car has plenty of flaws) with it's peppy engine. But the v8 is worth the premium and the v6 will always be in it's shadow, and rightfully so.

06-13-2009, 10:07 PM	#40
kutch720 Drives: Camaro 1LT RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 353 View My Garage	What about the Monte SS when it was out V8 303HP, same as the Impala SS. Just saying that the V8 can be a joke too. Not the Camaro V8 not by any means. The mustang gt isn't that great. Just because it is a V8 does not mean that it will be fast. Hell there are 4 bangers out there that would beat the crap out of alot of cars. V6 or V8. Regardless there is always faster. Whatever you have under the hood.

06-13-2009, 11:10 PM	#42
RedRaider Drives: 2000 Tahoe LT, 2010 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Garland, TX Posts: 377 View My Garage	I ordered a 2LT / RS. I am pumped about soon owning a car with all that equipment and power for under $32K after TTL. If you have $40K to spend, and don't mind the added gas expense, I highly recommend the 2SS. I'll probably pick one up when I retire in 20 years!