[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I know this can vary by area but ill throw my area out here. I just checked some similar size dealerships, to check their inventory levels of camaro vs inventory of Mustangs. If the camaro was not supposed to be close to/beat mustang in sales you would think there wouldn't be as many of them sitting on the lots right? Seems like my dealers are stocking just as many Camaro's as Mustangs.

Large dealer ( Hawk Chevy) has 45 Camaros in stock, Ford dealer owned by same group(Hawk Ford) has 47 Mustangs.

Local Chevy dealer (Castle Chevy) (which happens to be a huge volume dealer) has 82 Camaros in stock. ( 8 of which are dealer ordered/in transit)

Largest Ford dealer has 51 Mustang's (Golf Mill Ford)

Smaller dealers have 12 Camaros (Bill Kay Chevy) to 5 Mustangs (Willowbrook Ford)

So at least from what I can see in my area, the dealerships are sure stocking them like they expect them to sell like Mustangs.

Wow, my Chevrolet dealer doesn't have one SS in stock. The other local Chevrolet dealer, which is the highest volume in the southeast only had five SS' in stock last time I checked...

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Yup, way too much bitching about this on here, especially without anyone having a clue about profit margins and targets and such. Plus, this platform is a global platform being used on multiple cars, unlike the Mustang, that also had multiple divisions involvement in R&D. So initial costs were lower then even what they had to do with the 5th gen.

You are referring to the Global Zeta platform? It was just bigger and heavier but had 2 wheel bases just like Alpha.

[ChefBorOzzy]

Our big dealer has 48 2016-2017s in stock. 44 of those are 2017. This dealer actually seems to move inventory. There have also been one of the top dealers moving Corvettes in the country.

Another Chevy dealer has 11 in stock. 6 of them 2017.

Another Chevy dealer has 13 in stock. 12 of them 2017.

Mustang wise..
Ford dealer has 15.
Another Ford dealer has 12.
Another Ford dealer has 4..this dealer doesn't do much business.

The Mustang's that the Ford dealers have in my area are mostly 2016s.

I'd say the 2016 Camaro inventory has been moved out fairly well in my area.

[ChefBorOzzy]

Unfortunately, once again, the 2SS Camaros hitting lots here are pretty much fully loaded.

I'd think a 2SS with NPP and navigation would be very popular instead..

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

Unfortunately, once again, the 2SS Camaros hitting lots here are pretty much fully loaded.

...this is part of the problem. Most people don't special order their cars. So when they see all these fully loaded 2SS's on lots they get sticker shock.

[Dudie7]

Originally Posted by HogsFan75

I understand what you are saying but I disagree with that take.

Being a "leader" in sales has always been a huge part of automotive marketing.
Do you really think they like being dead last in segment sales with a brand new refreshed platform? Also being beat by the Challenger which is more or less the same for 8 years. I think from a sales and marketing standpoint that can't be sitting well with GM.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see it

It isn't sitting well with them...that's a guarantee. Their Motortrend Car of the Year is being outsold nearly 2 to 1 by its main rival and is also losing the battle to the traditional 3rd place car. Listening to all of the baloney about profit margins and fleet sales is the ultimate denial of the truth...they did not get this car right. Flat out, plain and simple.

[Posaune]

My closest Chevy and Ford dealer (owned by the same people) are pretty large. Chevy dealer has 51 Camaros (half '16 half '17) Ford Dealer has 26 Mustangs (again split 50/50). The Chevy dealer has doubled there inventory of Camaros in the last two months or so.

[ssrs2lt]

With all the previous sales data for 50 yrs of camaros, I would guess GM planned sales of the 6th gen. I truly hope enough camaros are sold to keep it around..

[CapeCruisin]

Originally Posted by Dudie7

It isn't sitting well with them...that's a guarantee. Their Motortrend Car of the Year is being outsold nearly 2 to 1 by its main rival and is also losing the battle to the traditional 3rd place car. Listening to all of the baloney about profit margins and fleet sales is the ultimate denial of the truth...they did not get this car right. Flat out, plain and simple.

Looks like they got it right to me. Pricing on the other hand, is a little steep.

[Posaune]

Originally Posted by ssrs2lt

With all the previous sales data for 50 yrs of camaros, I would guess GM planned sales of the 6th gen. I truly hope enough camaros are sold to keep it around..

I don't think it is in danger of being cancelled, yet. Still too early for that line of thinking. But something isn't adding up which could change future plans.

[merlin803]

"Top GM exec sees continued strong auto sales in 2016"

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...2016/87772530/

"And even though demand for cars is weaker throughout the industry, some are still selling at premiums compared with the models they replaced.

The Camaro is selling for $3,700 more on average than its predecessor"

Profits....not number of Camaro's sold vs Mustang (Ford by the way missed their 2nd quarter profit marks..)

No mention of impending doom or even disappointment in Camaro sales.

Rage on though.

[SS 1LE]

Ford seems to be the one not doing so well...

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/28/inve...own/index.html

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by Dudie7

It isn't sitting well with them...that's a guarantee. Their Motortrend Car of the Year is being outsold nearly 2 to 1 by its main rival and is also losing the battle to the traditional 3rd place car. Listening to all of the baloney about profit margins and fleet sales is the ultimate denial of the truth...they did not get this car right. Flat out, plain and simple.

Seems you bought the right car then. Congrats.

I think the car is outstanding, just too expensive. I'll probably still get one but I can see why the general public is turned off.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Dudie7

It isn't sitting well with them...that's a guarantee. Their Motortrend Car of the Year is being outsold nearly 2 to 1 by its main rival and is also losing the battle to the traditional 3rd place car. Listening to all of the baloney about profit margins and fleet sales is the ultimate denial of the truth...they did not get this car right. Flat out, plain and simple.

I would be bitter too if I had to always stare at Camaro tail lights...