12-05-2015, 10:57 PM | #15 | ||
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I have put over 500 miles so far on my GT350TP in both urban & highway driving and even below 3k rpm it has good pull. Many times I don't even past 4k or 5k rpm prior to shifting and I have no issues with power/torque bands from a standstill or entering/merging into traffic for example at low-midrange rpm's. One day drives won't define the experience at all... in any case, I can vouch that the GT350 can be a perfectly fine daily driver. No need to go high rpm's. In fact it still sounds really good at low-mid rpm's. I haven't driven the SS yet but like I said I had a Stingray with the same LT1 engine and obviously I know the capabilities of that motor especially on a C7's lighter weight and very low center of gravity chassis replete with Magride and ediff as well. For sure I can see the 6th gen SS will be a great all-around car... it's already receiving lots of praises credited to the GM parts bin of topnotch goodies. So like I experienced with the C7, I'm also confident the 6th gen performs quite well. The key aspect is the lighter alpha chassis... that's a fine foundation to start with. Best of luck with your future build. Quote:
If you're strictly comparing and narrowing down to a standard GT350 (hence no Magride as the biggest difference) against the new SS with all the performance goodies, then I will agree that it may be quite close, neck to neck. We'll see if ever any reviews/tests are done... One thing that still stands out to me though is the braking performance of the GT350 because those stock brakes are so good. Better than a C7 Z51's and maybe even a notch better than the C7 Z06's. Ask anyone who has tracked a GT350 and the common denominator will be how linear it stops and fade free lap after lap... scubbing from high speed you suddenly realize you're braking way too soon. That's how good the brakes are. Remarkable. I agree Motor Authority's comparison was a dud... but IMO look at it half-glass full. It still revealed how good these cars are... different characters, different target audience even if you think about it. The SS will be produced in much greater numbers while the Shelby GT350 has a smaller target niche per se. Speaking of a base GT350, here's one to compare... for sale at Machaik's Southway Ford in San Antonio: http://www.windowsticker.forddirect....6P8JZ7G5520183 |
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12-06-2015, 12:40 AM | #16 | |
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12-06-2015, 06:12 AM | #17 | |
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"After testing numerous brake setups, FP engineers discovered iron rotors provide improved performance and durability (and replacement costs) compared to carbon ceramic. Following several 24-hour endurance sessions, 394-milimeter front rotors (15.5") and 380-milimeter rear rotors (15.0") were chosen to provide stopping power. The two-piece rotors with large aluminum hats are assembled with an offset floating-pin system that allows for improved cooling and ventilation. Combined with atypical radially-mounted fixed-bridge 6-piston front and 4-piston rear calipers, these brakes experience virtually no fade in torture testing."Lots of good details here- http://www.torquenews.com/106/new-fo...d-class-brakes |
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12-06-2015, 07:32 AM | #18 | |
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12-06-2015, 08:21 AM | #19 | |
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Personally, there is no need or desire for me to get a 6th gen SS since the C7 is better performance-wise to me. Why should I retract from a Z06 back to a 2SS? If anything, I'm looking forward to seeing the special editions or performance editions GM will reveal (e.g. the next ZL1 or the next Z/28). Those would be my targets to add to the stable... If you reread my posts in detail, I also stated that the 6th gen is an excellent package... car of the year worthy. I had my 5th gen 2SS 45th Anniv for nearly 3 years which I daily drove plus tracked in stock form and just by seeing/reading about the 6th gen I can already see the huge improvements by GM especially with the all new interior. Loved my 5th gen, so I'm sure with all the improvements the 6th gen will be a better car as we are already hearing... the LT1 is a great motor. Performs very well on & off the track especially with all that torque down low. The only subjective part of the 6th gen I am not a big fan of is the rear fascia and that pedestal spoiler. But I still have as much vested interest in the new 6th gen variations as anyone else out there. Different strokes for different folks.... |
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12-06-2015, 09:21 AM | #20 |
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Don't mind that guy. Sensitive people who are actually bothered by anything on a forum should just not partake altogether. There is nothing wrong with talking about cars and how they compare on a car forum.
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12-06-2015, 09:26 AM | #21 |
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I don't think anyone should arguing the Camaro SS is better than the GT350 (and shouldn't) but that it's closer in performance to that then its direct competition the GT Mustang.
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12-06-2015, 09:33 AM | #22 | |
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No...not when the SS clearly outperforms the GT! I'm a Camaro guy and I was happy to see that but what GM simply needs to do is figure out how to make the 1le changes so that the ss is right there with the GT350. One of the changes is brakes. I think a better brake option should have been offered on the "track capable" SS! |
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12-06-2015, 09:39 AM | #23 | |
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12-06-2015, 09:42 AM | #24 |
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But aren't those carbon ceramics? I want to see the same gt350 set on the SS. They will last longer and not make me want to cry when I blow thru a set. Lol
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12-06-2015, 10:01 AM | #25 | |
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12-07-2015, 09:06 AM | #26 |
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I'm a Camaro guy through and through, but I do appreciate Stingray's unbiased review of the vehicles. I will always drive a Camaro, but I do respect what Ford has done with the Mustang.
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12-07-2015, 01:29 PM | #27 |
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I am just shocked to see the 6th Gen SS nip at the heals and equal the GT350 at all. Ford set out to trump the 2015 Z/28. But they should have aimed slightly higher. They knew the 6th Gen was coming and new HiPo cars as well.
My only issue with GT350 is no one is home in low RPM range. The complaint is apparent and everyone who has seriously driven one echos the same statement. But the car look stellar and sounds great. I do not see the GT350R holding any track records for long. Remember the Z/28 was a track beast and kudos to Ford for crafting a well balanced car to take it down. But the GM team has their trump cards incoming. It's a good time to love these cars
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