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Old 11-30-2015, 10:46 AM   #400
shaffe


 
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Originally Posted by Snoman View Post
Sure, perhaps you can elaborate or you just here to throw meaningless flames?

Edit: Actually, will go one step farther - good luck finding anyone who paid less than $90k for their GT350R.
Yeah finding an R at MSRP will be very tough this year. I do remember that there was also very high markups on the Z when it was first released as well. So let's not bring in rebates or mark ups right now.

Sure let's break it down shall we.

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Originally Posted by Snoman View Post
Stock vs stock, price no object, the cars are equivalent and it comes down to a personal choice of styling.

Yes, if you just look strictly at MSRP these cars are pretty equivalent. Except that You can get creature comforts in the 350R that you can not get in the Z/28 for 10K less or if you just wanted the 5.2 you can get a base 350 or track pack 350 or a tech pack 350. For those that just wanted a LS7 Camaro, you had to go full blown Z/28.


The 1 second difference in the track can easily be explained by driver mod.

The cars were driven by the same driver same day. Not to mention that Randy is a pretty damn good driver. Yeah I am sure the average joe driving both cars might be able to get one faster than the other, but this test had a professional driver drive both cars. Can't really say a different driver here would make the Z faster.


For those that didn't watch the entire video, the Z/28 walked away leading the majority of the video,

Actually if you watch the video, you will see the R is ahead most of the way. Carried more speed into the turns, and accelerated out of the corners faster(which was a point that Randy made the the R put the power down better) The Z was right there slightly, and on the last turn the R really pulled ahead. Ask some of these guys that have actually raced on a road course. Over a second on a road course is huge.

the only reason the 350 won was the "drag race at the end".

Again false, while I am sure it had a little bit of influence, MT knows that both of these cars are track cars, but since its Mustang and Camaro they had to drag race. And also that entire segment of the video, looks to me as if it was done to be comedic, with the mullet hair on the Camaro driver

The 2015 pro racing season and Stevenson motorsports already proved the Z/28 is the best track car available. Once price becomes a factor, Ford fails miserably at $40k+ more and once you take a step back and realize this is a 6th gen vs. 5th gen.....just...no words. I have no doubt GM will continue to dominate for several years to come.

Who cares about pro racing season? Unless they are taking the cars out of the show room and racing them as is I don't care.

Yes this old gen vs new gen that debate has been beat to death. And as impressive as the 6th Gen SS is, I have no doubts that GM will build something to one up the 350R and do it with ease.
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And I am not trying to take anything away from the Z/28 The performance it offers is unbelievable, especially on the platform they made it on. Just think you need to give credit where credit where credit is due is all. The way your post came off is that the 350R is a total failure
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Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT View Post
Lets keep it simple. ..
it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(

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