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Old 03-15-2016, 10:15 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by DGthe3 View Post
I never said it would be slow to accelerate.

To further specify your reason for why a tire spins: its because at that given wheel speed, the torque divided by tire radius exceeds the frictional co-efficient multiplied by the normal force at that wheel.

Since physics is often incomprehensible when its just a jumble of words:
Rear wheel power = torque x wheel speed
Torque = rear wheel power / wheel speed
Torque = force x distance
Force = torque / distance
therefore
Force = (power / wheel speed) / distance
On the other side of things:
Normal force = mass x gravity x % weight distribution
Frictional force = co-efficient of static friction x normal force

The Force at the contact patch =
Torque / radius(tire) = co-efficient of static friction x normal force
Or ...
F= (P/w)/r = mu(s) x N
If the power side exceeds the friction side, the wheel spins. Note that power and normal force are in direct proportion to each other. Consequently, the smaller the normal force, the less power can be used. But the faster you go, the more power you can use.

Since the slingshot is very light, the maximum amount of power that it can apply is fairly low. At higher speeds, more power can be put down. But it could very well be that with the trike being so light, and the engine so powerful that even in 5th gear, the engine might still exceed the friction limit. Hence, my post.


Also ... you didn't fully work out the implications of Newtons second law:

(I'm sick of word equations at this point ... )
(1) F = ma = mu(N)
(2) N = mg
sub (2) into (1)

F= ma = mu(mg)
masses cancel, therefore:
a = mu(g)
When an accelerating force is based solely on contact friction, mass becomes irrelevant.
Very thankful to be reminded of physics while attempting to relax and disconnect myself from my studies
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