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Originally Posted by iPODFAN11
The ZL1 honestly, in my opinion, near renders the CTS-V useless, just like the Camaro V6 and SS near render the ATS/ATS-V coupe useless. Why spend the $$$? The better performing cars are cheaper!
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You spend the extra money because a car is more than performance per dollar calculation. I love the Camaro but it simply won't do with 2 kids under the age of two. Not to mention the luxury car vs rental car interior
(I'm kidding - don't take offense)
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Originally Posted by MuhThugga
The ATS and ATS-V have been overpriced from the start, just as the rest of Cadillac's fleet.
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Overpriced compared to what? The ATS-V is a bargain relative to its competition.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/merce...-s-comparison/
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Originally Posted by MuhThugga
Which is why Cadillac has abysmal sales figures.
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Please define abysmal? Clearly you haven't seen BMW's numbers YTD.
- Audi up 2.9%
- BMW down 10%
- Cadillac down 3.8%
- Mercedes-Benz down 6%
Really Audi is the only full-line luxury brand posting growth thanks to a strong and cheap crossover lineup.
Cadillac globally, sales are up over 20% thanks largely to China.
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Originally Posted by DGthe3
Furthermore, since Camaro sales aren't doing that well, and Cadillac ATS & CTS sales aren't doing that well ... why in the world would GM create a Buick that would mostly just steal sales from its siblings?
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Generally speaking NO cars are doing that well. The pony car segment is
DOWN 10% YTD. Sports cars are
DOWN 6% YTD and the premium sports car segment is
DOWN 13%
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Originally Posted by KLR ZL1
Remember that Buick is China's Cadillac and that is why it never got dismantled like Pontiac.
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No, Cadirack is China's Cadirack!
In all seriousness, Cadillac is on pace in China to eclipse American sales in the next year or two.
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Originally Posted by iPODFAN11
Yet I would cross shop the living S#&t out of them. I'm sure its nice and fluffy in the Cadillac Alpha cars, but dollar to car ratio makes it VERY hard not to look at the Camaro offerings.
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Performance per dollar calculations will never favor luxury brands. If you don't need/care about luxury then the Camaro is great bang-for-the-buck. Just keep in mind some of us buy those "nice and fluffy" luxury performance cars as second cars to fulfill broader daily needs.