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Gohan 02-20-2013 09:30 PM

C7 versus ZL1
 
What do you think the performance pecking order will be between the C7 and Camaro ZL1 (starting from best)?

1. ZR1 C7
2. Z06 C7
3. Camaro ZL1
4. Standard C7


The ZL1 and standard C7 will likely be the closest in performance (0-60 and track times) I'm thinking. And since final performance figures for the C7 haven't been released yet, we can speculate for fun for now :)

mikeyg36 02-20-2013 10:06 PM

I would put a base Z51 over a ZL1. Less weight, optional MRC, dry sump etc.

Vette TPI 02-20-2013 10:31 PM

C7 is suppose to match the current Z06, so that would put it just over the ZL1 due to less weight, better handling (because of weight), and quicker. If the current Z06 is capable of 0-60 in 3.6/7 then the C7 should be about there or close. :rockon:

OldJedi 02-20-2013 10:56 PM

As much as I love my ZL1, based on what has been said so far, the base car should be faster the the Z. The upgraded models Z06 and ZR1 should be much quicker. The car that might get into the mix down the road will be the lighter Camaro Z28 with the upgraded LT1 engine. Remember that you heard it here first.

Gohan 02-25-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJedi (Post 8393)
As much as I love my ZL1, based on what has been said so far, the base car should be faster the the Z. The upgraded models Z06 and ZR1 should be much quicker. The car that might get into the mix down the road will be the lighter Camaro Z28 with the upgraded LT1 engine. Remember that you heard it here first.

Seem most guys think the base C7 will still outperform the ZL1 Camaro.

Do you guys think that it will also cost more than the ZL1?

BWF07 02-27-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gohan (Post 8882)
Seem most guys think the base C7 will still outperform the ZL1 Camaro.

Do you guys think that it will also cost more than the ZL1?

Yes the C7Z51 package will cost more then the ZL1 Camaro. The ZL1 Camaro should be selling for around $56-$60K. That is only a few grand over the projected C& base price. I think the Z51 loaded out will sell for around $75K

C6Z06dude 08-10-2013 11:50 PM

as of today (10 August 2013) the Camaro ZL1 base is $54350 and the C7 vette with Z51 is slightly more($51995 plus $2800).

Hancock 08-11-2013 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by C6Z06dude (Post 6884221)
as of today (10 August 2013) the Camaro ZL1 base is $54350 and the C7 vette with Z51 is slightly more($51995 plus $2800).

Don't forget the extra dough for the mag ride as well. 1800 if I am not mistaken.

New_Car 08-14-2013 09:27 PM

ZL1 at the bottom

Scarrzz 08-18-2013 05:11 PM

Just remember, you can put more co-eds in a ZL1, so that may be considered a performance issue. :thumbup:

supercharged zl1 08-19-2013 12:28 AM

When will the Z06 be available?

Corvette7Tuning 10-07-2013 12:16 PM

I would guess in a year, as the C6 Z06 showed up roughly a year after(2006) the C6 was launched(2005).

Brabolus 11-10-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Corvette7Tuning (Post 7071120)
I would guess in a year, as the C6 Z06 showed up roughly a year after(2006) the C6 was launched(2005).


that sounds about right as C7's are just now rolling in

shreded1 11-11-2013 02:02 PM

Stay tuned and I will let you know soon. I own a ZL1 and will soon have a C7 Z51 to put by it's side.

GQ4Life 11-22-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BWF07 (Post 6234743)
Yes the C7Z51 package will cost more then the ZL1 Camaro. The ZL1 Camaro should be selling for around $56-$60K. That is only a few grand over the projected C& base price. I think the Z51 loaded out will sell for around $75K

so u put base ZL1 base compared to fully loaded Z51.. :doh:

Z51 starts at $53,800
ZL1 is $56,000 (a lil more)

We only talking performance
Top end ZL1 probably faster accelerating but on race track the Z51 is faster.. both have same top speed..

noxqq 07-14-2014 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by shreded1 (Post 7176529)
Stay tuned and I will let you know soon. I own a ZL1 and will soon have a C7 Z51 to put by it's side.

shreded....Did this ever happen? I am in the same boat - ZL1 & Z51 C7. My wife asked me the question. It might just be a hint that she wants to line up with me in one or the other at the track. I think that I would rather just be able to answer her question verbally. :smiling1:

Hulkamaniac 07-16-2014 03:46 AM

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Having had the honor of owning a ZL1 and now a C7 Z51, it's a toss up as to which car is better cuz it all depends on what you're into.

Both are amazing and very capable machines. Both go from 0-60 in 3.7 seconds. Both have a top speed of 185+ mph right off the showroom floor. Both have great handling with the magnetic ride.

It boils down to this...

Do you like a 4200 lb brick with 580 hp that gets 19 mpg and looks p***ed off just sitting still or a 3200 lb refined lazer with 460 hp that gets 30+ mpg and is elegant but deadly? :iono:

I LOVED both cars, but now only own a C7 Z51. IMO the C7 made my $61k ZL1 look and feel like a cheap, plastic toy.

Don't get me wrong, I still love Camaro's and as soon as I hit the lottery I'll have all kinds of them and Vettes in my stable. :thumbup:

fcu678 07-16-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Z51Stingray (Post 7821184)
Having had the honor of owning a ZL1 and now a C7 Z51, it's a toss up as to which car is better cuz it all depends on what you're into.

Both are amazing and very capable machines. Both go from 0-60 in 3.7 seconds. Both have a top speed of 185+ mph right off the showroom floor. Both have great handling with the magnetic ride.

It boils down to this...

Do you like a 4200 lb brick with 580 hp that gets 19 mpg and looks p***ed off just sitting still or a 3200 lb refined lazer with 460 hp that gets 30+ mpg and is elegant but deadly? :iono:

I LOVED both cars, but now only own a C7 Z51. IMO the C7 made my $61k ZL1 look and feel like a cheap, plastic toy.

Don't get me wrong, I still love Camaro's and as soon as I hit the lottery I'll have all kinds of them and Vettes in my stable. :thumbup:

Stingray, I'm with you on that one

S'vette 07-09-2015 08:50 AM

The two will be close from the start but once the Zl1s SC gets to kickin in it will pull on the base C7 due to its higher boost. I guess it depends on what speed or distance you will go to during the race. Im pretty sure the Zl1 will best a base C7 in a 1/2 mile or more. Now SC vs SC the Z06 C7 will win for sure.

phillip123hastings 01-16-2016 07:53 PM

I don't know what to say lot of things are in stake. But here for example the C7 stingray smoked this ZL1 :D

http://www.musclecarszone.com/corvet...dragtimesinfo/

Bosse'sBoss 03-24-2016 05:29 PM

From the ones that we know, best performance:
C7 Corvette Z06 w/. Z07 package
6th. Gen Camaro ZL1
C7 Corvette Grand Sport w/. Z07 package
Corvette Stingray Z51
6th. Gen Camaro SS 1LE
5th. Gen Camaro Z28
5th. Gen Camaro ZL1
6th. Gen Camaro SS
5th. Gen Camaro 1LE

Bosse'sBoss 10-12-2017 08:37 PM

Now that I owned first a 5th gen Camaro ZL1 and now a Corvette Stingray Z51, both of them '14 and both with the A6 automatic transmission, I think that I can give a better opinion.
-Both look great, the ZL1 has that mean, menacing and intimidating Muscle car look, but the C7 Stingray looks amazing, almost makes you feel like you are driving an exotic low driving position with the jet cockpit style interior.
-Driving feeling. The ZL1 feels strong and heavy tank style with a very strong engine, you feel very secure while driving it, specially with the BG Goodrich all season tires which are great in all kind of weather. The Stingray feels almost as fast as the ZL1 without the S.C. Engine because it is very light. A 90 degree curve that I take at speed, I toke it very confident with the ZL1 with strong grip but on the Stingray, it felt very lose and unsettled on the back, in Sport mode the T.C. quicked in immediately. Probably the wider tires of the ZL1 helps it better.
Both cars are keepers but the C7 Stingray would feel like it is the best option. EXCEPT! If you are planning to track your Stingray, Forget about it, the automatic Stingray even in Z51 option would overheat the transmission severely and continuously making you look bad with unfinished track time, it's a big shame because the A6 transmission shift greatly in full automatic or while using paddle shifting. The easy solution is an upgrade of the transmission cooler but you will lose your power train warranty. If you like to track instead get a manual transmission Stingray Z51, and still there are some complaints of missed shifts of the 7 speed transmission, probably the Camaro's 6 speed manual transmission is more precise than the C7's.
Decisions, decisions, decisions!:fear::iono::doh::behindsofa:


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